[45ACP4ever]

Two new scenario's to think about:

1) Your neighbor across the street just had a messy breakup with her boyfriend. About 2 am you hear smashing and screaming. It's the ex trying to break down the girl's front door. What would you do? Intervene? Just lay back and call 911? Yell at him and hope he leaves?

2) You are CC'ing downtown and you pass an alley and catch a glimpse of something suspicious. You turn back and see that it is a man trying to force himself on a woman. Do you draw on him? Yell at him to get off? Run towards him to scare him off?

Let me know what you think, I know you all have opinions.

 

[jhfox462]

For the first one I would call 911 and hang back. IF it looked like it was getting dangerous I might go out to do something. I have a hard time with women being hurt and it would piss me off. I know most people say take care of your own but if he was hitting her or something I might just go out there with a baseball bat or something.
For the second senario...
well my first instinct is kill him. I wouldnt but I definately would not just walk by and call 911. I would call 911, draw and tell him to get off her. I would have a real hard time not beating the crap out of him.
Just my .02 :hand1:

 

[Ben Hennessy]

First situation, I would cal 911. No one is being harmed and let the LEO's do their job. Second situation, I would let th BG know I am calling 911 but keep an eye on him at all time. If this does not stop him I would draw. Not knowing what his next move is I can not say what my next move would be.

 

[Rock and Glock]

911,
911. then
Observe, evaluate, act if needed (unlikely)

 

[Thumper]

#1 - I'd call 911 and watch till the police arrived.

#2 - I'd holler at the BG and start heading in his direction. If he takes off, fine. If he pulls a weapon then so do I! From that point on it's his decision as to what I do next! :grumpy:

 

[Freedz]

The first scenario I'd call 911 and keep an eye on the situation from a distance while I wait for police.

The second scenario I'd definately draw on the guy and hold him there until police arrive. Obviously that guy has no problem hurting that particular person so who's to say he's not a threat to other people as well. That kind of person has no productive role in society and needs to be removed.

 

[rocky]

911 , both situations. 2nd situation, yell at the BG, perhaps intervene depending on the situation. Domestic assault is one of the most dangerous for LE, you never know when/ if the victim will turn on ya.

 

[Rugerman]

I had a neighbor get beat inches from death by an ex that had the fatal attraction thing going on. I don't think I could just stand by but would call 911 and keep a very very close eye on things. #2 I'd have to make sure the perp knew I was there and have called 911. Might have to expend more energy if he didn't stop the attack.

 

[goawayfarm]

It is hard to say what is the BEST thing to do. I would try to stop both because it's the RIGHT thing to do.......

However, with domestic situations, you never know. Years back I was at a Burger King, standing in line. Just outside the door, I saw a man in his early 20s start smacking his girlfriend. I went outside at once grabbed him by his collar & flung him off of her. I yelled at him without cursing:aargh4: , to stop. He did, he backed down & calmed down........then............the girlfriend goes off........on ME!:blink: .

There she is getting the crap beat out of her, I stop it & she gets mad at me. I told her if she wants to get beaten, than take it some where private.

Neither one knew I was carrying & I never went for my weapon.

 

[rodc13]

1) In our neighborhood, we all try to keep an eye on each other. Call 911. Yell at the guy, and then intervene if it looks like he's making progress getting inside. Of course, a laser dot from my AR might be deterrent enough. Hell, a laser pointer would probably do it, but in case he has a gun, I don't want to be stuck saying, "Stop or I'll point again!".

2) If I know it's an assault, then I'm intervening. On the other hand, if it's two goth kids having a fun evening out, I'd prefer not to shoot. If it's a confirmed attempted rape in progress, a 230gr JHP should put a stop to it. Oh, yes, and do by all means call 911.

 

[QKShooter]

These days with absolutely equality of the sexes

Remember that your answers simply must reflect that absolute equality.
We must treat females exactly the same as males and vice versa.
So while giving your answers to the above ~~~ your answers must be the same and 100% interchangeable for the way the scenarios have been rewritten below. :yup:

1) Your neighbor across the street just had a messy breakup with his girlfriend. About 2 am you hear smashing and screaming.
It's the ex-girlfriend trying to break down the guys front door.
What would you do? Intervene? Just lay back and call 911?
Yell at her and hope she leaves?

2) You are CC'ing downtown and you pass an alley and catch a glimpse of something suspicious. You turn back and see that it is a woman trying to force herself on a man.
Do you draw on her? Yell at her to get off?
Run toward her to scare her off?

Let me know what you think, I know you all have opinions.

:rofl:

 

[Ben Hennessy]

QKShooter, I'm sorry but I feel you gave a very wrong statement on equality. I do believe men and women are equal but they are not that in body makeup. Yes I know some women are much more stronger than men but I am trying to speak the norm here. In most cases men are the stronger sex, so therefore you do not handle it the same way.

 

[rocky]

In all seriousness, QK shooter has a point. sometimes the female may be the aggressor. Getting beat down by someone I started to protect isn't my idea of a good time. And 2 on 1 can happen quickly.
Unless you are sure of the situation and know LE cannot respond quickly, I would suggest hanging back. Shouting a warning and calling 911 is a good first step. Your CCW permit does not make you a LE officer.

 

[Thumper]

911 , both situations. 2nd situation, yell at the BG, perhaps intervene depending on the situation. Domestic assault is one of the most dangerous for LE, you never know when/ if the victim will turn on ya.

In the Police Academy we had some shoot / don't shoot scenarios that went that way! Shoot the bad guy and the victim picks up his gun and shoots you! :blink:

 

[.45forme]

#1Ok what should be done.Call 911 and watch the guy beat the crap out of her.So you can be the main witness at the hearing.Aint it great to have all this POWER in your hands and have to be so careful about it.

#2 The B/G is so busy he dont see you run up and POP him in the head. you have saved the courts and the SYSTEM alot of time and money. But of course you are a LAW abiding person so you call 911 and try to SCARE the B/G away.

Remember its YOUR life and or YOUR property thats in danger.

 

[Rock and Glock]

Gender does not matter to me.

What does matter is KNOWING the FACTS.

In the second scenario there's a dearth of details and facts to allow one to truly know what is happening. I believe rushing in, guns blazing, is incredibly incorrect. Observe, react:

What if he/she instigated the attack with a shiv?
What if they like rough sex in the alley?
Lovers quarrel?
Drunken spat?

While no one suggested that exact response, the LEO's will sort the facts out, and they get paid to do that.

You don't get paid to do that. Your responsibility is to yourself and your family, whether you have dependents or not. You risk your physical health AND your financial health. Just my .02

 

[rstickle]

Both cases call 911. For the second I may try and intervene depending on what happened prior to the Police arriving.

 

[QKShooter]

I hear you Ben & you are correct though there are an increasing # of female agressors in the mix these days - In general females will not be the deadly threat in most life or death scenarios.

 

[Ben Hennessy]

I agree QKShooter. I just wanted to point out that equality has nothing to do with ability.

 

[SixBravo]

Yep

Some people may not agree with my position on number two but oh well. I hold rapists in a special place in my heart.

1) 911 is getting a call first. Then I would prolly head over there with my firearm to attempt to talk some rationale into him.

2) After I confirm what is exactly going on, the gun is drawn and I'm on him like stink on brown stuff. I would probably call 911 after I have him backed into a corner. A friend of mine was raped and brutally murdered. I have zero tolerance for those caliber people. I don't believe in street justice but in the case of these scum......