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Have not heard of Dr. Burzynski before couple of days ago. His work isn’t like any I’ve read before and found this interesting.

Watched a video on him and the gov has tried to shut him down a few times. They can’t cause what he is doing isn’t illegal. He’s in Houston and has a clinic to treat folks.

Isn’t it odd how the gov tries to shut down ppl/doctors that have found ways to cure something?! It sure does seem like a lot of politicians may be getting paid off by the pharmaceutical companies.

Other than reading about this I have no opinion yet as to if it works or not. I have seen what radiation can do so yeah I’d probably try it if ever needed.


https://www.burzynskiclinic.com/about-us/
OUR MISSIONFor over 40 years, Dr. Burzynski’s cancer research and patient care has been inspired by the philosophy of the physician Hippocrates: ‘First, do no harm’. Therefore, our approach to treatment is ‘personalized’ in an attempt to maximize effectiveness and minimize side effects for each cancer patient.
In everything we do, we are proudly committed to these principles of cancer treatment and to continued cancer research. Our mission is to beat cancer.
 

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I'm always puzzled when members of the firearm community criticize the gun control community for making up numbers, using obscure poorly-set up "studies", and appealing to emotion... and then abandon those principles when it comes to medicine. I have heard about this man before, and I was under the impression he lost his license... He has numerous publications in "pay to publish" obscure journals. But the fact of the matter is that he's a snake oil salesman who takes advantage of victims (patients') fears and vulnerability, and then appeals to the worst kind of conspiracy theorists among the general population. He's charging people hundreds of thousands of dollars - if this worked, it'd be a pharmaceutical company dream. There is no grand conspiracy. There's just quackery, wishful thinking, and clever use of social media to advance a completely false agenda.

https://www.newsweek.com/2016/03/04/stanislaw-burzynski-cancer-medical-malfeasance-429057.html
 

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Another one that I’d try is Gerson Therapy, Dr. Gerson was murdered. He cured his own cancer and then others. I have tried his cure as his daughter (whom is still alive, go to YouTube and put in Charlotte Gerson, great lecture and she’s about 100yo now) said she didn’t even have a doctor cause she was never sick.

This is a simple diet, one a person could try for a week for just about anything. Can say IBD went totally away when juicing what is recommended - taste good too!

Then there is Mr. Hoxsey, I first read about Mr. Hoxsey about 8 years ago in a book called “Politics and Healing” by a former Senator from I believe NY? This story was truly an “accident” to how Mr. Hoxsey learned of the healing because of a horse he had to put to pasture to die however the horse healed itself - long story but good and he did have science back up.

Hoxsey Method Cancer Treatment Review Diet & Tonic - CANCER


All I know is that I love people, I love the folks here on DC and if there is anyway to make someone’s life better then I’m all for that.
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I'm always puzzled when members of the firearm community criticize the gun control community for making up numbers, using obscure poorly-set up "studies", and appealing to emotion... and then abandon those principles when it comes to medicine. I have heard about this man before, and I was under the impression he lost his license... He has numerous publications in "pay to publish" obscure journals. But the fact of the matter is that he's a snake oil salesman who takes advantage of victims (patients') fears and vulnerability, and then appeals to the worst kind of conspiracy theorists among the general population. He's charging people hundreds of thousands of dollars - if this worked, it'd be a pharmaceutical company dream. There is no grand conspiracy. l

When it works, it puts the pharmaceutical companies out of business hence the politicians are not getting paid extra to vote for these drugs that are killing people - I’ve seen it first hand with my father. They killed him slow but burnt his ear off first....as a “treatment” :mad:


Now as for you gnius, “In the name of Jesus Christ I command YOU Negative demon to get behind me!”

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I just read about the fellow’s clinic and practice at several websites. It seems to me that he has no proof of his claims. Her is one part of an article with a link to it.

Although Burzynski and his associates claim success in the use of antineoplaston combinations for the treatment of various diseases, and some of the clinic's patients say they have been helped,[27] there is no evidence of the clinical efficacy of these methods. The consensus among the professional community, as represented by the American Cancer Society[27] and Cancer Research UK[28] among others, is that antineoplaston therapy is unproven and the overall probability of the treatment turning out to be as claimed is low due to lack of credible mechanisms and the poor state of research after more than 35 years of investigation. While the antineoplaston therapy is marketed as a non-toxic alternative to chemotherapy, it is a form of chemotherapy with significant known side effects including severe neurotoxicity.[17][29]

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I just read about the fellow’s clinic and practice at several websites. It seems to me that he has no proof of his claims.
Yes I agree that there is a lot of bad press out there. A lot of bad press for Trump, even heard bad press for Billy Graham!

After watching this movie about it: Burzynski Movie | Cancer Is Serious Business yesterday, it intrigued me and thought I’d post it since I know many here are older and have friends/family or themselves dealing with illnesses that could possibly be helped.

Only going on what I’ve seen personally. Got a cat right now with cancer that isn’t suppose to be alive that is doing great. Folks gotta do what works for them.
 

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Seriously?
Congratulations for twitter level of discourse. Why even bother posting?
When you're dying, you'll reach out to anyone who offers a chance at being cured. McQueen went to Mexico for "special" treatments that weren't allowed by the FDA in the US. He was grasping at straws on the chance it might work, he died having spent a ton of money of " alternative medicine/cures" regardless.

Then there's the conspiracy theorist that supports the proposition the docs are only about taking drug company monies to push a particular product and it's all about the money [ and not to say that doesn't happen ], but to accuse the medical community at large of being in bed with drug companies for the soul purpose of making them and the companies money?

Rod Serling said it best "You are about to enter another dimension, a dimension not only of sight and sound but of mind. A journey into a wondrous land of imagination. Next stop, the Twilight Zone!"

oh, and gnius, don't fret the small stuff, the OP can't see my reply as I've made her hit parade list as well. It cuts me to the quick I tell ya. :biggrin2:
 

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I'm always puzzled when members of the firearm community criticize the gun control community for making up numbers, using obscure poorly-set up "studies", and appealing to emotion... and then abandon those principles when it comes to medicine. I have heard about this man before, and I was under the impression he lost his license... He has numerous publications in "pay to publish" obscure journals. But the fact of the matter is that he's a snake oil salesman who takes advantage of victims (patients') fears and vulnerability, and then appeals to the worst kind of conspiracy theorists among the general population. He's charging people hundreds of thousands of dollars - if this worked, it'd be a pharmaceutical company dream. There is no grand conspiracy. There's just quackery, wishful thinking, and clever use of social media to advance a completely false agenda.

https://www.newsweek.com/2016/03/04/stanislaw-burzynski-cancer-medical-malfeasance-429057.html
Part of that probably has to do with our famiiarity of things surrounding firearms vs the medical community. We are on a gun forum where a lot of information is shared. If this were a medical forum people would tear apart different studies that pushed a medical agenda but most of those people woiuld be clueless about data pertaining to firearms, self defense, etc.
 

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Nothing to worry about. All we have to do is elect "Lunch Bucket Joe" Biden, and HE will cure cancer. (Personally, I presume.)

Even better (according to Joe) "If you like you plan, you can keep your plan."

So just elect Joe, and you can't lose ! (What could go wrong ?)
 

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My wife fought 4 bouts of cancer over 40 years. She had four operations. radiation 2x, and chemotherapy 2x. She lived only to die from a stroke. At one poin in her treatments doctors and clinics in Mexico were offering unconventional treatments with the most popular being injections of a substance. made from peach pits. It was touted a a major advance in the. fight agaist cancer and there were numerous reports about how life saving it was. The FDA not only would not approve it but actually banned it from use in the US. Still thousands of people flocked to get the treatment. Most of them were stage 4 (terminal) patients with no hope. After several years it became well known that the treatments were ineffective and had no science to back them up and no trials or data to prove efficacy. finally, if I recall correctly, the Mexican government shut the clinics down. Desperation drives people to try even proven failures.

While I hold pharma companies in high disregard I hold oncologists in high regard. My wife had two. They cared about her, were honest with us, and they did all they could to beat her disease, and they did it. They based all their tretments on proven science, trials, and data of success and failures. That is real medicine.
 

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Sister, I met Dr Bryzynski and his staff.

I had an old USMC buddy that I was close to who came down with a rare form of colon cancer.

When his cancer was treated and came back a couple of years later, he turned to Dr Bryzynski. I flew in to Bryan Texas area to visit with him and I drove him to Houston for his appointment and evaluation. The Dr and his staff took him on as a patient, but unfortunately, conventional medicine had already butchered him to the point that he didn’t have enough left to hold the enzyme treatment down, and passed a few weeks later.

I was impressed with the pictures and the array of celebrities that had been to him and had been successfully treated.

The medicine machine in this country does not want to actually cure cancer.
 

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Sister, I met Dr Bryzynski and his staff.

I had an old USMC buddy that I was close to who came down with a rare form of colon cancer.

When his cancer was treated and came back a couple of years later, he turned to Dr Bryzynski. I flew in to Bryan Texas area to visit with him and I drove him to Houston for his appointment and evaluation. The Dr and his staff took him on as a patient, but unfortunately, conventional medicine had already butchered him to the point that he didn’t have enough left to hold the enzyme treatment down, and passed a few weeks later.

I was impressed with the pictures and the array of celebrities that had been to him and had been successfully treated.

The medicine machine in this country does not want to actually cure cancer.
I have come to believe this myself.
 

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Based on a 5 year survival rate, these maladies have cures from the US medical machine.

Breast cancer.
Prostate cancer.
Testicular cancer.
Thyroid cancer.
Melanoma.
Cervical cancer.
Hodgkin lymphoma.

https://www.livescience.com/11041-10-deadliest-cancers-cure.html

About $200 billion has been spent on cancer research since the early 1970s, and the five-year survival rate for all people diagnosed with cancer in the U.S. has risen from about 50 percent in the 1970s to 65 percent today.
 

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The main thing that stood out to me when reading Dr. B's web site was that there is no mention of insurance coverage. I wonder how many people have the multiple tens of thousands of dollars that treatment there would cost? That has nothing to do with whether it is effective or not - just who could possibly afford it.

Personally, I recently had experience with a very good, board certified, colon specialist. He was straight forward and honest with me: He knows absolutely nothing about supplements and does not want to know. He is very good at what he does, but is not open to learning that natural things often can be as effective in curing some problems - and sometimes more effective if they do not have the side effects (one of which is death) that prescriptions have. The reason I wound up going to him was that the natural things that normally stop a problem like this didn't work this time. My PCP doctor also tried 2 different Rx for me and they didn't work either. It was out of sheer desperation that i let my doctor make the appointment with this specialist.

That said, I did take the steroid the specialist prescribed (after a colonoscopy so he could make a proper diagnosis) and am now in process of weaning off of it. My problem seems to be gone FOR NOW,, but the steroid wipes out your immune system and I am now suffering from a massive, horrendous sore throat and head cold which looks like it is wanting to become bronchitis.

I have not had a "cold" for over 10 years prior to this, using my own special diet and supplements. Before that I always caught a cold virus about twice a year and it almost always turned into bronchitis.

I am taking all of the natural supplements that I know that will help my body get rid of this virus. And using my neti pot, which is not fun but can help the sinus mess, I hope.
 

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Well I know with my wife how far her cancer had advanced and then how much it seemed to reverse while my wife was taking the CBD oil. She stoped taking the oil and the cancer spread real fast so she has been back on the CBD oil and I figure her next petscan will day 100% without a doubt how effective the CBD oil along with chemo and prayers has been. Right now if I had cancer or know someone who does I try to get them on "real" cbd oil.

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@NelsonHolsters,
I’m glad to know Betty is doing better with the oil, I believe in it. We will keep the both of you in our prayers for a full healing - I know in my heart it can be done (((hug))) 💕
 

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Started to post this earlier and had to walk away for a while.

My Wife is a cancer survivor, almost 40 years cancer free.
Acute Lymphoblastic Leukemia as an infant was a death sentence when she was diagnosed and the treatment they used on her was not approved by the FDA except as an experimental treatment. The only thing her parents knew was that it had shone promise in animal testing.
She is proof that it worked. The list of side effects is a mile long with new ones being added as the original test subjects age and more long term effects show up. It is hard to see my Wife struggle as she does. The alternative would be not having her or my Daughter in my life. Not even going there!
They still use that same treatment today with a number of refinements which has lessened many of the side effects seen in the early patients.
It is not 100% effective. My cousin lost his 6 year old granddaughter this winter when the leukemia returned after a 3 year remission. It did give them 3 years with their granddaughter that they would not have had if not for the research done 40 years ago.

The conspiracy theorists do have a point, but it is not as extreme as some might suggest.
The almighty dollar drives a great deal of the research, but also the number of people affected by a disease plays a part. Do you invest years in searching for a cure for something that is seen 10 times a year, or one seen daily across the world?

CBD Oil has been proven to slow and in some cases reverse certain types of cancer cell growth. Not that many years ago few had even heard of it and was illegal many places.
There are treatments in Europe that have been used successfully for years with a great deal of data to show the effectiveness, yet the FDA refuses to even look at them for use here. One is a natural anti-depressent successfully used for decades in Europe with few side effects.

I know I don't have the answers, but I am beholden to those who seek for them.
 

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I will toss in my $.02 worth.

I am pretty intimately acquainted with the world of cancer treatments, more so that I ever hoped to be.

Cancer is a general term that covers a VAST array of different kinds of cancers. Let's just stick to one type out of hundreds....Non-Small Cell Lung Cancer. It is an incredible killer, and one of the leading causes of death in the world. In NSCLC (which I have) there is a vast difference within the genetic markers, and researchers have done a marvelous job of developing new drugs that target specific genetic markers.

With that, NSCLC will be "blocked" by these new drugs---for a while. Eventually, the cancer learns to mutate around the blocker. Then another drug is researched, tested and marketed to block the latest mutation. (I happen to be on my 3rd iteration of a "blocking" medicine). And all this for just ONE GENETIC STRAIN WITHIN NSCLC. Now, multiply the same thing by 100 different kinds of cancers & mutations.

Then we add in the individual differences and miracles. EveryBODY'S BODY is a bit different. As one example, my last multiple rounds of chemo, my Oncologist told me I'd lose my hair...everybody does. Well, I didn't...but, all the hair on my legs fell off. Then there is the Immunotherapy I am on: It should NOT be working for me, but it IS and a friend of mine who is a PhD cancer researcher just shakes her head and says "God's Grace." (which I agree with)

I guess this boils down to a bottom line like this: In the vast experience of humanity, there will always be some inexpiable "miracle" stories. Good for them, may they and their families rejoice, but just because "one or 20 people rubbed their skin with raw cucumber slices and their cancer went away" does not mean that ________ (fill in the blank) will work more than on a mere handful of people.
 
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