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they will kick you out if your found out so deep conceal...

also FL as you know has an armed trespass statutes...
 

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I'm assuming The theme parks are pretty safe, so I'd probably leave it in the trunk. Any Florida residents been in this situation?
 

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id carry, in fact i plan to when heading down to fla between turkeyday and christmas...

oh by the way love the cobra is it a factory five kit or original etc?? im a mustang man myself building a shelby "R"model fastback clone(where my user name comes from)
 

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Yup! Factory Five. Three year build, then real estate market fell apart and had to sell it.......Can't seem to part with the pic. LOL
 

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Does anyone know if Disney has restrictions on CC on their property, theme parks, resorts, etc?
Disney will kick you out if you are discovered, and will in all probability revoke any tickets you have (i.e. if you buy a 7 day pass and get discovered, they will revoke the entire pass).

Bear in mind that if you are asked to leave, you must immediately do so. Any other action can result in a charge of armed trespass, which is a felony here.

Also, know that there are very, very few places in the park where you would ever have a valid backstop if you had to shoot. What looks like a stone wall is usually a thin fiberglass facade over an open framework with a few thousand children on the other side.

I'd suggest not carrying in the parks.

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Disney does not allow concealed weapons carried by guests. That said, many I know of slip a J frame into a pocket holster and go about their day. They do not use metal detectors, so don't ask don't tell works well. :image035:
 

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OK, nuff said. G 27 stays in the trunk.....thanx

Do what you like. When I go, I carry. P3AT pocket carry.

Their method of looking is to look in purses, backpacks, fanny packs. No on person searching.

Disney is VERY anti 2A. They fund anti-gun legislation lobbyists here in Florida so they get VERY (none) little of my money, but the other parks are essentially the same. Just a little less in your face about it and no lobby money that I know of.

If you get outed, ask to leave as their only real weapon is trespassing. Florida law states that if you are requesting to leave (regarding CCW), you are not trespassing. If they bar you from leaving, ask if they are detaining you. That will usually get them to let you be on your way. False arrest, kidnapping...

If you are worried about the entire pass, then buy individual passes so they only revoke yours. But that still leaves the family without protection.

By the way, Disney will also kick you out if they know it is in your car.
 

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It is legal to carry in Disney
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=Ch0790/SEC33.HTM&Title=->2009->Ch0790->Section%2033#0790.33

790.33 Field of regulation of firearms and ammunition preempted.--
(1) PREEMPTION.--Except as expressly provided by general law, the Legislature hereby declares that it is occupying the whole field of regulation of firearms and ammunition, including the purchase, sale, transfer, taxation, manufacture, ownership, possession, and transportation thereof, to the exclusion of all existing and future county, city, town, or municipal ordinances or regulations relating thereto. Any such existing ordinances are hereby declared null and void. This subsection shall not affect zoning ordinances which encompass firearms businesses along with other businesses. Zoning ordinances which are designed for the purpose of restricting or prohibiting the sale, purchase, transfer, or manufacture of firearms or ammunition as a method of regulating firearms or ammunition are in conflict with this subsection and are prohibited.
Disney, the city, and the County are not allowed to make it Illegal to carry in Disneyland, only the State of Florida or Federal Government could (and have not). If they find you are carrying and ask you to leave and you refuse to leave it becomes armed trespassing.

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Tactically it is a very different question, I agree with Matt a firearm is a dangerous thing when a solid wall isn’t really a solid wall. I would carry Pepper or a Taser instead.

Also, know that there are very, very few places in the park where you would ever have a valid backstop if you had to shoot. What looks like a stone wall is usually a thin fiberglass facade over an open framework with a few thousand children on the other side.

I'd suggest not carrying in the parks.

Matt
 

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I wouldn't carry anything intended for any distance, in that type of crowd if something odd happens take cover (something solid if you can) and if you opted for the afore mentioned p3at route you could then protect your space if you had to up close and personal.

Find one of those underground tunnels where all the mickey's hide and stay there!
 

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It is legal to carry in Disney
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=Ch0790/SEC33.HTM&Title=->2009->Ch0790->Section%2033#0790.33


Disney, the city, and the County are not allowed to make it Illegal to carry in Disneyland, only the State of Florida or Federal Government could (and have not). If they find you are carrying and ask you to leave and you refuse to leave it becomes armed trespassing.

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Tactically it is a very different question, I agree with Matt a firearm is a dangerous thing when a solid wall isn’t really a solid wall. I would carry Pepper or a Taser instead.
You need to brush up on your understanding of constitutional rights. In short, they don't apply to private businesses or private property. Recently Disney also won exemption from the State law requiring employers to allow employees to have firearms in their cars while at work because of the fireworks permit that they have to have.

That means that Disney DOES have the legal right to say "NO GUNS" on Disney property.

For those who would rather not feed the mouse, there are other amusement places that allow CCW. Knotts Berry Farm in SoCal is one (Call and ask them if you don't believe me). I believe that Busch Gardens in Fla is another but am not positive.

Personally if I wanted to go to Disney I would just go and leave the EDC at home in the safe. Anything else is just acting the fool.
 

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Do what you like. When I go, I carry. P3AT pocket carry.

Their method of looking is to look in purses, backpacks, fanny packs. No on person searching.

Disney is VERY anti 2A. They fund anti-gun legislation lobbyists here in Florida so they get VERY (none) little of my money, but the other parks are essentially the same. Just a little less in your face about it and no lobby money that I know of.

If you get outed, ask to leave as their only real weapon is trespassing. Florida law states that if you are requesting to leave (regarding CCW), you are not trespassing. If they bar you from leaving, ask if they are detaining you. That will usually get them to let you be on your way. False arrest, kidnapping...

If you are worried about the entire pass, then buy individual passes so they only revoke yours. But that still leaves the family without protection.

By the way, Disney will also kick you out if they know it is in your car.
So have it in the trunk/glove box etc and don't tell them :rolleyes:

I don't carry IN the parks, but outside I will and do. Orlando is not Maybery.
 

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I live fairly close, been there--done that--and I hate the T-shirts.:hand1:
I would leave my Glock-36 in the trunk, but I do take my KelTec P-3AT in a pocket holster in with me...who's going to know? (And it's legal...:yup:)
I want to know that my trip to and from the car is going to be a safe one.
 

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You need to brush up on your understanding of constitutional rights. In short, they don't apply to private businesses or private property. Recently Disney also won exemption from the State law requiring employers to allow employees to have firearms in their cars while at work because of the fireworks permit that they have to have.

That means that Disney DOES have the legal right to say "NO GUNS" on Disney property.

For those who would rather not feed the mouse, there are other amusement places that allow CCW. Knotts Berry Farm in SoCal is one (Call and ask them if you don't believe me). I believe that Busch Gardens in Fla is another but am not positive.

Personally if I wanted to go to Disney I would just go and leave the EDC at home in the safe. Anything else is just acting the fool.
Actually in some states a "NO GUNS" sign is recognized by law, and the owner can have you arrested for carrying in his store. In other states (Texas 30.06) the Sign has to meet specific legal requirements to be recognized as applying legally, and having you arrested for just carrying into their place of business. In Florida signs are not legally recognized by law. In Florida if you see a person carrying concealed in your place of business (Joe's Eatery or Disneyland) you ask them to leave but just the presence of a Concealed Weapon alone you cannot be arrested for having the weapon unless it is in violation of Federal or State Law. If the establishment asks you to leave and you refuse to leave then you can be charged with Armed Trespassing. Now Disney does have the option of having screening (i.e. Metal Detectors) and when you find someone you ask them to leave, if they refuse to leave you are back at Armed Trespassing.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_politics/files/guns_at_work_ruling.pdf

IT IS ORDERED:
1. The plaintiffs’ motion for a preliminary injunction (document 9) is GRANTED IN PART and DENIED IN PART.
2. The defendant Attorney General is hereby enjoined from enforcing those portions of § 790.251, Florida Statutes, that address an employer’s treatment of customers or invitees. This injunction does not affect the Attorney General’s enforcement of those portions of § 790.251 that address an employer’s treatment of an “employee” as defined in the statute—that is, a worker who has a valid Florida permit to carry a concealed weapon.
This prevents FL AG from enforcing 790.251 specifically on behalf of customers, but can enforce this specific statute on behalf of employees. Disney’s Exemption from FS 790.251 (due to a Federal License to handle Fireworks) was shot down. If you are arrested for having a gun on someone’s private property in FL it is after they asked you to leave and you refused, not because they placed a sign on a door or in a parking lot, unless that place is already illegal under either federal or state law. I have helped most of my bosses at work get their licenses but still, they cannot make guns in the parking lot a fire able offense, they can fire for any other reason they want, but not for guns in the parking lot.

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790.251 Protection of the right to keep and bear arms in motor vehicles for self-defense and other lawful purposes; prohibited acts; duty of public and private employers; immunity from liability; enforcement.--

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes...e&Search_String=790.251&URL=CH0790/Sec251.HTM
 

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I have and will carry Glock 26 IWB while at disney. Not worried about inside the park but outside Orlando not so good. If you use the search tab above you will find pages on this subject it has been discussed before. I tip my hat tot he security guard who last week notice one of the members clip from a knife. He requested that the knife be placed inside his pocket.
The choice is up to you just be remindfull that the park is loaded with CCTV for loss prevention. Walls are paper not cement.
Enjoy your trip.
 

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Yes, they have some Goofy Mickey Mouse rules written by idiots from Pluto.
 
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