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My family and I are going on the great Disney adventure this fall. I was wondering how you can get through South Carolina with a firearm. I have read it was ok as long as its not concealled. Is this true????? I live and hae my permit in VA. Also can you carry in Disney?
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I got this off of SC state laws.
Unlawful carring of handgun exceptons:
9) a person in a vehicle if the handgun is secured in a closed glove compartment, closed console, closed trunk, or in a closed container secured by an integral fastener and transported in the luggage compartment of the vehicle; however, this item is not violated if the glove compartment, console, or trunk is opened in the presence of a law enforcement officer for the sole purpose of retrieving a driver's license, registration, or proof of insurance;
Unlawful carring of handgun exceptons:
9) a person in a vehicle if the handgun is secured in a closed glove compartment, closed console, closed trunk, or in a closed container secured by an integral fastener and transported in the luggage compartment of the vehicle; however, this item is not violated if the glove compartment, console, or trunk is opened in the presence of a law enforcement officer for the sole purpose of retrieving a driver's license, registration, or proof of insurance;
This is the link:
http://www.scstatehouse.net/code/t16c023.htm
http://www.scstatehouse.net/code/t16c023.htm
You are dead on, in your car you can carry in your glove box or console and you are legal. Hopefully SLED will get with it and get more states permit recognized.yrustuk said:I got this off of SC state laws.
Unlawful carring of handgun exceptons:
9) a person in a vehicle if the handgun is secured in a closed glove compartment, closed console, closed trunk, or in a closed container secured by an integral fastener and transported in the luggage compartment of the vehicle; however, this item is not violated if the glove compartment, console, or trunk is opened in the presence of a law enforcement officer for the sole purpose of retrieving a driver's license, registration, or proof of insurance;
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I assume you mean Disney World in Orlando, FL. I have not been there in the last year or so, although I have been there several times since 9/11. I can tell you that I have never seen a "no firearms" sign outside any Orlando theme park, other than the special-event Halloween nights at Universal Studios (my experience that night is a separate story in itself).
I can and do carry in Disney parks and at Universal parks. There is a cursory bag search at the entrance. Therefore, you cannot carry in a fanny pack or off-body. However, pocket or IWB or other belt carry shouldn't be a problem. There are no metal detectors or pat down.
I can and do carry in Disney parks and at Universal parks. There is a cursory bag search at the entrance. Therefore, you cannot carry in a fanny pack or off-body. However, pocket or IWB or other belt carry shouldn't be a problem. There are no metal detectors or pat down.
Federal law
Check out this site
www.gunlaw.com/intrsta.htm
It explains how you can travel from one state to another with your firearms irregardless of what the state laws are.
It will at least get you and your firearms to you destination. I don't know about Disney. Why not just e mail them and ask?
But I wouldn't be surprised to hear that they are concerned about assassination attempts on Mickey.
Check out this site
www.gunlaw.com/intrsta.htm
It explains how you can travel from one state to another with your firearms irregardless of what the state laws are.
It will at least get you and your firearms to you destination. I don't know about Disney. Why not just e mail them and ask?
But I wouldn't be surprised to hear that they are concerned about assassination attempts on Mickey.
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Disney is very anti-gun. I wouldn't ask them because you won't get an answer you like. If you show up at the park and they have put in "no weapons" signs in the last year, make the decision then about leaving it in your car. I don't think you are going to find them, and I know you won't find metal detectors or similar security measures.
Again -- I am not advocating anything illegal. If it is not posted as "no weapons" there is no restriction in Florida on carrying in a theme park.
Again -- I am not advocating anything illegal. If it is not posted as "no weapons" there is no restriction in Florida on carrying in a theme park.
As for getting into Disney. I have been a couple of time. Three months ago was my last visit. As you enter the main entrance gate leading into the park, if you bring in a bag you will have to stand in line to have them look through it. However, those of us that do not have a bag to be checked just walk through another unsupervised gate after you present your ticket and giving a electronic finger print.I had no problem waiting inside the park while the wife stood in line to her purse looked at. I had no problem entering while carrying. I would advise if you plan to carry in the park make sure your wepon is not printing and you have a permit. I think it would be un-comforable position that your pistol falls out while getting unto or off a ride.
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Caveat: The follow is JUST MY HUMBLE OPINION!
I am a federal law enforcement officer and a firearms instructor. You very, very, very rarely find me without my weapon. I am "one of those guys"...the ones who don't go much of anywhere without it.
That being said: I also love Disney World. I admit it. I'm a bit of a Disney-head. I go whenever I get a chance.
Both of those things being said: I don't carry my weapon in the Park. I find it to be a huge hassle that interferes with my fun-time. It is very uncomfortable on many of the rides, particularly the roller-coaster type rides, which I love. It is also difficult on the water rides. Additionally, I have never found myself in a single place in Disney (except for perhaps a restroom) where I am not completely surrounded by people. Thousands of people...in every direction. Most of the building walls are just facades, and behind them...more people. Finding a safe backdrop to take a shot inside the park would be almost impossible. You are almost certainly going to hit an innocent bystander, either directly, or with a through-and-through shot. On the other hand, there are countless places to take good cover and escape.
I'm a carry-hound and my personal choice is not to carry in Disney. But, it is just that...a personal choice. Take it for what you will.
Gonzo
I am a federal law enforcement officer and a firearms instructor. You very, very, very rarely find me without my weapon. I am "one of those guys"...the ones who don't go much of anywhere without it.
That being said: I also love Disney World. I admit it. I'm a bit of a Disney-head. I go whenever I get a chance.
Both of those things being said: I don't carry my weapon in the Park. I find it to be a huge hassle that interferes with my fun-time. It is very uncomfortable on many of the rides, particularly the roller-coaster type rides, which I love. It is also difficult on the water rides. Additionally, I have never found myself in a single place in Disney (except for perhaps a restroom) where I am not completely surrounded by people. Thousands of people...in every direction. Most of the building walls are just facades, and behind them...more people. Finding a safe backdrop to take a shot inside the park would be almost impossible. You are almost certainly going to hit an innocent bystander, either directly, or with a through-and-through shot. On the other hand, there are countless places to take good cover and escape.
I'm a carry-hound and my personal choice is not to carry in Disney. But, it is just that...a personal choice. Take it for what you will.
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Gonzo
You made some very good and points that I feel we should all consider when making the choice to carry in a crowded environment.
Mike
You made some very good and points that I feel we should all consider when making the choice to carry in a crowded environment.
Mike
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mike_1 said:
Thanks Mike. Having spent a ton of time at Disney (I'm a sick, sick man), it is simply based on observation. There is almost no place in any of the theme parks where you can be certain of your backdrop if you were to shoot. There are tunnels, concealed rooms, and Disney cast members in almost every imaginable place. The odds of being 100% sure of your shot in the best of conditions would be just about impossible. Doing it under fire, with thousands of screaming, panicked people running at you and around you? Hard to imagine. Again, just my opinion.
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I appreciate the good thoughts about not carrying in Disney's theme park, but not carrying always has the same caveats - you have to leave your gun in the car which means you are "unprotected" into and out of the establishment and your gun is exposed to being stolen if the car is broken into or stolen.
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Tangle said:
If you stay in a Disney Resort property, almost all of the rooms have a safe in them. Can't say for other hotels in the area. However, I also recommend a gun box for vehicles. Certainly, the possibility still exists that you car could actually be physically stolen, but securing the pistol within a locked safe within the vehicle relieves you of a lot of the liability. You can only do so much, even in the eyes of the law. Somebody could also break into your house and haul off your gun safe. That being said, I still believe carrying in Disney is a pesonal choice and I would not fault anybody for choosing to do so.
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My thinking is that in the only emergency where I might wish to respond and put my own skin in extreme jeopardy (a terror attack with the BG's using firearms on a crowd) it would be nice to have my own piece ready to bring to bear, but not crucial. In such an event, weapons are literally everywhere if you have the training and foresight to see them. Not in the least of which is to remove them from a BG by getting close enough to touch in a close and fluid situation. Dicey? Yes, but if my only option...well I AM a sheepdog. http://www.blackfive.net/main/2004/10/i_only_hang_wit.html
Hey Gonzo, thank you for the job that you do! And speaking ALSO as a certified instructor and a FORMER LEO, I'd have to agree 100%! Mostly for the crowd issues. If YOU, Gonzo want to carry and not worry about the ride problem, wear a Belly Bag and show 'em your credentials. They'll let a federal LEO carry inside the park, no sweat. Otherwise if you want to stay below even their radar, follow your own previous advice. Just my own humble opinion.TheGreatGonzo said:
My thinking is that in the only emergency where I might wish to respond and put my own skin in extreme jeopardy (a terror attack with the BG's using firearms on a crowd) it would be nice to have my own piece ready to bring to bear, but not crucial. In such an event, weapons are literally everywhere if you have the training and foresight to see them. Not in the least of which is to remove them from a BG by getting close enough to touch in a close and fluid situation. Dicey? Yes, but if my only option...well I AM a sheepdog. http://www.blackfive.net/main/2004/10/i_only_hang_wit.html
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ExSoldier72,
Judging from your handle, you are former military like me. That being said, thanks right back at ya' for your own service. Another thing that has always affected my decision to carry in a Disney or not to carry is what type of attack I might expect there. In my way of thinking, a terrorist attack using firearms is very, very unlikely. If it were to happen it would most likely be an IED, or bio/chem in nature. That being said, having a handgun would not do me much good. As for your run of the mill pickpocket or jackass with a bad temper, I feel like I can most likely handle the situation with my happy little hands. However, if there were a rash of terrorist attacks that involved randon shootings in tourist attractions and amusement parks, I might have to rethink my tactics. But, for now, it boils down to the environment.
Gonzo
Judging from your handle, you are former military like me. That being said, thanks right back at ya' for your own service. Another thing that has always affected my decision to carry in a Disney or not to carry is what type of attack I might expect there. In my way of thinking, a terrorist attack using firearms is very, very unlikely. If it were to happen it would most likely be an IED, or bio/chem in nature. That being said, having a handgun would not do me much good. As for your run of the mill pickpocket or jackass with a bad temper, I feel like I can most likely handle the situation with my happy little hands. However, if there were a rash of terrorist attacks that involved randon shootings in tourist attractions and amusement parks, I might have to rethink my tactics. But, for now, it boils down to the environment.
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Gonzo - thx. You made one exceptionally valid point. Namely - it would to all intents be a no shoot environment, with so many folks around. I know this but needed someone to remind me. Come to think on it - when not long ago I was at County Fair with my son and was carrying, this did cross my mind, with folks all over. I guess my carry thoughts were more geared to some possible confrontation possibility outside of the crowds. They were tho of course not up to ''Dizzy proportions"
I'll not I doubt be visiting DizzyLand but if I were in a more local theme park this would equally apply. I am not LE and never was but I am a staunch 16/7 carry person and if having to downsize would plan to pocket pack my R9. However - you have given me good pause for thought. :smile:
I'll not I doubt be visiting DizzyLand but if I were in a more local theme park this would equally apply. I am not LE and never was but I am a staunch 16/7 carry person and if having to downsize would plan to pocket pack my R9. However - you have given me good pause for thought. :smile:
Yeah, I feel exactly the same way. I never knew just how MUCH OBL hated the MOUSE until I read a few recent books one by a guy named BODANSKY who is probably one of the leading experts on this terrorist POS. So when it comes to Disney, I'd almost expect WMD, like VX or a whole slew of IED's. I'd prolly carry a Spyderco knife for emergencies. Lots of good a good knife can do!TheGreatGonzo said:
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