[groper01]

I have a .40 cal H&K USP COMPACT hand gun. I currently carry with a side draw Fobus holster. I am very happy with this holster. I am about to purchase a second handgun exactly the same for my left hand. Does anyone know of a manufactuer that makes a Fobus like duel behind the back holster, or do you just have to buy 2 holsters?

 

[ghost tracker]

Not sure about Fobus holsters (personally don't like 'em) but you might search professional opinions about BTB (behind-the-back) holsters. IMPO, there's a lot more liabilities to them than there are advantages. But, of course, the decision is yours. Good Luck!

 

[cmb]

there is the option like in the movie face off, the one nicolas cage used, barely remember the movie, just his holster and pistols!

 

[dukalmighty]

I have a .40 cal H&K USP COMPACT hand gun. I currently carry with a side draw Fobus holster. I am very happy with this holster. I am about to purchase a second handgun exactly the same for my left hand. Does anyone know of a manufactuer that makes a Fobus like duel behind the back holster, or do you just have to buy 2 holsters?

I hate to say it but the fact you want one pistol for each hand makes me wonder why you feel the need to have 2 pistols drawn at the same time,some people carry a backup gun in case their primary fails etc.but your post has mall ninja written all over it

 

[Bark'n]

Bell Charter Oak Holsters has what is called the New York Reload for both auto and revolvers.

You can also find something I have used here at Law Concealment Systems.

 

[Greenman]

I hate to say it but the fact you want one pistol for each hand makes me wonder why you feel the need to have 2 pistols drawn at the same time,some people carry a backup gun in case their primary fails etc.but your post has mall ninja written all over it

:rofl: Now thats comedy, thanks I needed that.

 

[EW3]

Just don't fall backwards on them...unless you like being a quadriplegic. :frown:

One gun at 5 o'clock for me if I do belt carry, nothing across the spine!

 

[Bark'n]

Yeah, I wouldn't use the Bell Charter holster for that reason. I would use two separate holsters about 5 and 7 O'clock respectively. A lot more padding over the kidney area.

However I haven't carried anything that far back in a long long time. (5 & 7 O'clock)

 

[HKinNY]

I hate to say it but the fact you want one pistol for each hand makes me wonder why you feel the need to have 2 pistols drawn at the same time,some people carry a backup gun in case their primary fails etc.but your post has mall ninja written all over it

Greko45 1/2 brother?

 

[jwhite75]

If you are serious about two guns that is your option. However...you dont do it with two HKs in FOBUS holsters. I may sound like a snob...but come on. Two quality firearms like a HK should be in QUALITY Kydex or leather. Not plastic. Yes there is a difference between Kydex and plastic like in a Fobus. The Small of Back is an option but not a very popular one for various reasons. I personally would carry two guns ina "Mirror Carry" at 3 and 9. In a tightly boned Pancake holster. If you are serious..do your research and do it right....

 

[NCHornet]

I think you really do need to clarify your needs for thinking you actually need a setup of this nature. Good Luck

NCH

 

[joffe]

Name starts with a G.. has two numbers on the end.. Admires HK and products widely lampooned in the community..

Are you employed as an operator in your local malls Rapid Reaction Force?

 

[NYcarry]

Well that's one way to drive off new members, who's to say which way he would like to carry.
It's his choice, I'm sure he didn't come here for the insults.

DefensiveCarry.com isn't supposed to be like that, this place is different, let's not let it become one of "those" forums.

 

[QKShooter]

Let's try to educate and not alienate.

 

[FlyboyLDB]

Just don't fall backwards on them...unless you like being a quadriplegic. :frown:

One gun at 5 o'clock for me if I do belt carry, nothing across the spine!

Oh please, not these myths again. If you must post these scare tactics, please back it up with some data. Just some, does not have to be alot.

I like carrying SOB if I am going to be standing more than sitting. Covers well with a shirt or jacket. But not great riding in a car or sitting for long periods. But don't let the myths bother you.

 

[Ananael]

check out the Urban Safari Rig...

 

[Bark'n]

Oh please, not these myths again. If you must post these scare tactics, please back it up with some data. Just some, does not have to be alot.

I like carrying SOB if I am going to be standing more than sitting. Covers well with a shirt or jacket. But not great riding in a car or sitting for long periods. But don't let the myths bother you.

As usual, when Ayoob speaks of the dangers of something, he knows of which he speaks. I don't have the exact site, but if you buy all of Ayoob's books and magazines you'll find it.

When I read Ayoob's advise against this mode of carry at least 20 years ago; he in fact pointed to a case of a police officer who, while not carrying a gun in that position, he was carrying his 6 cell flashlight over the spine in the 6 O'clock position and became paralyzed when he fell off a chain link fence, and broke his back when he landed.

He advised against carrying a gun, flashlight, or handcuffs in the 6 O'clock position.

Now for me, that was enough evidence to get me to change my ways. I was working in EMS at a time when all of us carried a 5 or 6 cell Maglight and 90% of us carried it tucked in our belt in the small of our back.

I changed the way I carried after reading that article and to be honest. The risk is there, no matter how remote you may feel it is.

Now, if you feel comfortable carrying that way, no worries. I'm certainly not going to bust your chops over it. But please don't spout off that it is all a myth and it can't happen because that simply isn't true.

As a personal experience which did happen to me... While working in the ER a few years ago, I got pushed by a patient up against a large stainless steel scrub sink which has a large rolled edge of stainless steel about the same diameter as one of those Maglights I spoke of earlier. I hit it in the low lumbar spine area and had an immediate pain and numbness shoot from my back down my right leg to my foot. It remained numb for several minutes and I ended up getting an MRI to ensure I didn't have a herniated or bulging disc. No permanent injury and no herniated disc, but the ER doc said I was lucky. And I knew it too. And also remembered Ayoob's advice which just got reinforced with that incident.

The risk is legitimate. If you place a steel bar across your spine and fall on it hard enough, you can in fact fracture your spine and become paralyzed. It really doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand the concept. If you don't want to trust a lowly paramedic who has been an emergency medicine specialist for 30 years then ask any neuro or orthopedic surgeon.

It may be highly unlikely it will happen to the average Joe... But don't be touting it out to be a myth, Sir because it isn't a myth.

 

[dukalmighty]

I have a spinal cord injury,if you had to go thru what I do everyday,I would suggest not carrying in a way that could even remotely cause damage to your spinal cord.How about sitting in a chair while everybody else runs around playing sports or hiking or climbing and all you can do is wish you could go with them,or the chronic pain from damaged nerve endings that fire up.

 

[groper01]

You have all been very helpful. I trained with behind the back holsters for a while then I went to the sides. I prefer the concealment options of behind the back. Face-off....Holy Crap you mean I could be like Nicolas Cage. Sweet. Just kidding. Thanks guys!! Ninja-1 signing off.

 

[groper01]

This is not for 24 hr a day use. I have a need about 50% of the time to conceal behind the back. I am not putting my old stuff on ebay, just need alternate ways to conceal. And that is a very good point NYcarry. I did not expect to be ridiculed for my preferences. I appreciate those of you with real points to share, and even the safety issues. My HK has a de-cocker and thumb safety. No holes in the ass here. Thanks again.