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I had been thinking of getting a 1911 hi-cap, either Para-Ord, or Springfield. Then I stumbled on the EAA Witness made by Tanfoglio. This seems to be an interesting firearm. You can get it in .22LR, 9mm, .38 Super, .40 S&W, .45ACP, and 10mm Auto. Not only that, but if you buy one gun, you can get conversion units for all the other calibers, essentially having 6 guns in one.

All the reviews I've seen of this firearm have been running about 95% in favor of it. I am seriously thinking of getting one of these.

Anyone here have any experience with one in any caliber?
 

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Years ago, I sold a Customer a 9MM gun, and it jammed so much, I took it back and never bought one again.. I'm not sure about today's guns, but the Customers still pass them by when they see em at the Store... For the $$$.........they look and feel like the CZ75. I'd spend the extra and get the CZ, since the Tanfoglio is a Clone of the CZ..
 

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Years ago, I sold a Customer a 9MM gun, and it jammed so much, I took it back and never bought one again.. I'm not sure about today's guns, but the Customers still pass them by when they see em at the Store... For the $$$.........they look and feel like the CZ75. I'd spend the extra and get the CZ, since the Tanfoglio is a Clone of the CZ..
Well, I might, but I don't think CZ makes one in 10mm. On the CZ forum (ezboard), they've got a subforum for CZ clones, and there's a ton of people there who swear BY the Witness. Very few complaints.
 

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Never heard a whole lot about these - good or bad.

Superficially sounds interesting. Ideally I think I'd want to see and shoot one.
 

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Most folks I know go withthe CZ. Even Jeff Cooper, famous for his disdain of the 9mm grudgingly admitted that the CZ is the best example of a 9mm crutchinticker as he calls the 9mm. Most of the folks in my IDPA club stay away from the EAA in favor of the CZ but I think that's only a couple to start with. I was contemplating getting a Witness 45 compact in the all steel variation, but I looked at the price (does cheap mean cheap?) and the potential resale prices (low) and decided to save for an H&K USP!
 

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I had a Witness in .45ACP the only time it jammed was with loads that were in the low end category as far as powder charge.

As for the 10mm version a local shop has the polymere frame models for something around $249, IIRC. And I've been thinking about them. Because the all steel large frame guns feel like a lead brick as far as weight when loaded.
 

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I own a blued, full-sized steel Witness 10mm which has suffered some issues that I've posted on 10mmtalk.com:

http://www.10mmTalk.com/index.php?showtopic=1710&hl=witness

Despite my problems with my Witness, I know of others with little to no problems with their guns. I think the Witness are diamonds in the rough, which is why I haven't sold mine.

With a Wolff extra power recoil spring and a Sprinco recoil reducer, my Witness (when firing the single ten-round mag that came with it) is the softest shooting 10mm in my collection.

When I get off my butt, I will send the gun to Cylinder & Slide to get worked on.
 

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I own a Witness Tactical II (all steel) in 40 S&W and think it is one of the best made guns I own. I've seen guns costing 2-3 times the price of the Witness that weren't as well made. I also own a CZ in 40 and would say that the Witness is at least as well built as my CZ. I've only fired a few 100 rounds through the Witness since I got it last year, but it has never had a failure of any king and was perfectly sighted in (at least for me) straight out of the box. I am seriously considering the Witness as the gun I'll use the next time I qualify for my CCL.
 

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So far, since I started my search. The recommendations to buy one, versus those who tell me to avoid it have been running about 20-1 in favor of buying one.

I think, when I get in IRS refund, I'm buying an EAA Witness steel frame, Wonder Finish full size 10mm. :smiley2:
 

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you should be happy. I had one in .40 about 13 years ago. A sweet all-steel pistol. I think I traded it for my first .44 mag....
 

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In case I forgot to tell anyone

I did get an EAA Witness. Only it's not in 10mm, it's in .45ACP. I could have ordered one from out of state, but came across this one in a local gun store and just couldn't walk away from it.

It shoots pretty darn good. Since I bought it this past March, I've put 500 rounds through it, and it hasn't jammed or failed to fire once.

Hopefully, I'll get the 10mm conversion kit for it next month and see how it works then.
 

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I did get an EAA Witness. Only it's not in 10mm, it's in .45ACP. I could have ordered one from out of state, but came across this one in a local gun store and just couldn't walk away from it.

It shoots pretty darn good. Since I bought it this past March, I've put 500 rounds through it, and it hasn't jammed or failed to fire once.

Hopefully, I'll get the 10mm conversion kit for it next month and see how it works then.

Very cool the conversion kits seem like a cool ideal to easy to change caliber ..

Only think i have read and seen negitive on the EAA is some 10mm's have cracked the slides and i have seen one cracked at the range.. Now this have been few years ago so that might be fixed by now
 

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Very cool the conversion kits seem like a cool ideal to easy to change caliber ..

Only think i have read and seen negitive on the EAA is some 10mm's have cracked the slides and i have seen one cracked at the range.. Now this have been few years ago so that might be fixed by now
The problems may stem from the recoil springs. Everyone I've chatted with on this, who has one, say to get Wolff springs in 20 or 22# weights. They especially say to do this, if I plan to use DoubleTap ammo in it. I'm way ahead there, already got the springs, now I just need the conversion kit. :biggrin2:

By the way, if you go to 10mmtalk.com, you'll read mostly good stuff about the EAA Witness in 10mm.
 

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Ive been over there never read up on the witness was looking at glock 20 to get a eaa here its order only never seen one even at the gun shows
 

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This is my .45ACP witness (larger version of my current avatar).


It's in what they call "Wonder" finish. It's really a heat treating process.

I've decided when I order the 10mm conversion, I'm going to order it in bluesteel, for contrast.

If you are limited to mail order only, and you are interested, I'd suggest checking out reedsammo.com. They carry all the models and all the standard conversion kits too. I also understand that savvysurvivor.com carries some non-standard conversion kits for the witness. I'm thinking about maybe .357 SIG after I get the 10mm conversion.
 

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I keep trying to convince my friend to trade me his witness and $300 for my delta elite. He won't bite.
He won't give me the witness and $150 for my glock 20 either.

I'm going to buy another 10mm :redface:
 

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Let me add a buy. I have a fullsize in 40 and it absolutely never jams. I fired a 10mm last week, Poly frame and was shocked at how controllable it is. It will be my next. I have 34 handguns and reguard the Witness as a deal.
 

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Have two Witnesses, love both. One is the Brian Enos Limited Edition .45, and it is exceptional. The local gunshop where I hang out didn't have any, and I ordered my first .45 from him (I have had 4 Witnesses of various different names), so he ordered a spare one; sold it; ordered more. It is his best selling gun. He told me the other day that the "boys from the mountains" buy them and never have brought one back. That is a high recommendation.
 
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