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My bet: they're gonna jump on him. National Security reasons. Color him "gone" ... more or less.
 

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Well since Mr. Snowden has betrayed not only his country but his life-long confidentially agreement he will most likely be brought up on some serious charges. There are many safeguards in place with regard to collection and Mr. Snowden as a contract employee should know that. I have no empathy for him.

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Well since Mr. Snowden has betrayed not only his country but his life-long confidentially agreement he will most likely be brought up on some serious charges. There are many safeguards in place with regard to collection and Mr. Snowden as a contract employee should know that. I have no empathy for him.

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You may not have any sympathy for him, but you obviously have some empathy for him.
 

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According to what I read all this information was available publicly if you knew where to look. If they prosecute him it sort of shows a guilty conscience on the part of the security group. How did they come to let their stuff be connected to the 'Net, or how did this guy get to it? Maybe they owe him a debt of gratitude for exposing a weak security link, like a white-hat op?
 

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According to what I read all this information was available publicly if you knew where to look. If they prosecute him it sort of shows a guilty conscience on the part of the security group. How did they come to let their stuff be connected to the 'Net, or how did this guy get to it? Maybe they owe him a debt of gratitude for exposing a weak security link, like a white-hat op?
One wonders how a 29 year old finds himself in a position paying 200K, a security sensitive position at that, gains access
to information that a private company (he was working for a contractor not Uncle directly) perhaps should have at best had
only a small piece of.

I'd like to know a lot more about his education, career, prior work experience. One paper said he worked for the CIA. OK, at what level, rank, etc., how long, under what circumstances did he leave?

I want to know a lot more about the contractor who hired him. If they guy had a very high security clearance, did they actually
investigate who he is? Honesty, integrity, etc.

I smell rotten fish, and the stench might not be just from Mr. Snowden.

Whether one like, hates, approves, or disapproves of whatever program was ongoing, the key issue to me is how
such a young person gains access to "the keys to the kingdom." Secret programs generally parcel out pieces and only
a very few individuals know what each piece is about-- or so I learned reading spy novels and watching Bond movies.
 

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Well Hopyard, someone has to do it.

What makes you think this guy, duplicated thousands of times over, couldn't be "tripping the light fantastic" with Americans' data?
 

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I smell rotten fish, and the stench might not be just from Mr. Snowden.
Very fishy indeed. He states that he is an Information Technology guy, a systems administrator, a senior consultant. He works for a contractor not the NSA.

Then he goes on to say that not all intelligence analysts (NSA folks) have the same security authority to intercept communications. However he has the authority to bug anyone including the POTUS.
 

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Very fishy indeed. He states that he is an Information Technology guy, a systems administrator, a senior consultant. He works for a contractor not the NSA.

Then he goes on to say that not all intelligence analysts (NSA folks) have the same security authority to intercept communications. However he has the authority to bug anyone including the POTUS.
Which if he said that ( one never knows from news reporting), makes him likely a pathological liar.

OTOH, if true, there are some pretty high level people who should lose their jobs and go to jail.
 

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Fall guy.....

My guess is that something that could be this controversial would be kept under wraps a bit better than to allow a contractor to have as many details as have come out. There's more to it besides some Booz Allen high school dropout. That's only a hunch though....
 

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Fall guy.....

My guess is that something that could be this controversial would be kept under wraps a bit better than to allow a contractor to have as many details as have come out. There's more to it besides some Booz Allen high school dropout. That's only a hunch though....
A high school dropout would not get hired by Booz Allen in the first place.
 

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As altruistic as Snowden's motives may be, does a single analyst have the right to expose secrets that could put all of us at risk? Everyone with a security clearance and a computer could potentially be a Snowden. Where does their conscience end and the country's security begin? It will be interesting to see how our country answers those questions.
 

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He said it in the video taped interview linked to in the first post.
Well then, I think he is just a nut, perhaps with little real information. He also said, "My predisposition is to seek asylum in a country with shared values." So he flees to Hong Kong, China. :- Hmmmm.

Meanwhile Booz Allen the contractor in Hawaii says he only worked for them for 3 months. Duh, it smells like a pile of deep manure to me. This quote, "I sitting at my desk certainly had the authority to wiretap anyone from you to your account or a federal judge or even the President if I had a personal email," sounds like the fellow suffers from
delusions. But, that doesn't mean his fantasies gone public have not created a lot of trouble, if only by making
ordinary people like us wonder if any of it is really going on, and then getting mad about it, even if the statements
by him seem to lack credibility.
 

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I agree with you Hop. What is truly amazing is that the media (CNN and Fox) are running with this and seem to be making stuff up as they go to add some sizzle to the story.
 

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The bulk of the NSA's manpower comes from intelligence troops in the 4 branches of the armed forces. Most of them are age 20-25. Many of them, when they leave the service, go to work for contractors like booz Allen. If you have a TS-SCI clearance and worked for NSA, you can be read into anything and have access to it. This applies to contractors as well. The going rate in the DC area, especially with language skills is 150-200K annually.

There is nothing strange at all about a 29 year old making 200K and having access to Nat'l Security info. BTW, contractors are involved with everything, to include operations. They have the same clearances, take an annual polygraph, etc. They just get paid by the contractor instead of the government.
 

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Gotta admit, the guy has guts.
 
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The bulk of the NSA's manpower comes from intelligence troops in the 4 branches of the armed forces. Most of them are age 20-25. Many of them, when they leave the service, go to work for contractors like booz Allen. If you have a TS-SCI clearance and worked for NSA, you can be read into anything and have access to it. This applies to contractors as well. The going rate in the DC area, especially with language skills is 150-200K annually.

There is nothing strange at all about a 29 year old making 200K and having access to Nat'l Security info. BTW, contractors are involved with everything, to include operations. They have the same clearances, take an annual polygraph, etc. They just get paid by the contractor instead of the government.
Sounds like they are getting paid more than Congressmen (174K),Federal District Judges (174K), and about the same
as Cabinet Officers . Nice work if you can find it. [sarcasm] And everyone thinks Uncle saves money by contracting out :- [/sarcasm]

As for his "true confession," just my opinion, but look up John Mark Karr
 

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Before Snowden worked for Booz Allen Hamilton he worked for Weed Washington Franklin also a defense contractor.

You think I'm blowing smoke? We ain't seen noth'n yet! Before the press is done with this one ksholder will be wearing pants, what with the endless smoke and sunshine blowing up the skirt all the time.
 
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