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Anyone ever used any of this ammunition? We talked to one of the reps at the SHOT Show and picked up some of their material. Their claim is that the wound channel is up to 200x the size of the projectile. It is a wicked looking round made of compressed Tungsten-NyTrilium Composite. I had never heard of it before....

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silvercorvette said:
One shot through the skin of an aircraft will not cause any noticable decompression. It would most likley take a couple hundred rounds to do it. That whole decompression thing is a Hollywood myth.
Yeah, I heard that, too. In the article I read (I forgot where) it said that the only real way that shooting a few rounds would possibly cause a problem would be if you just happened to cut a hydraulic line or electrical wiring, but even that was not likely.
 

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Well, obviously, I have never used the ammunition either but I will add a couple of observations. Their claims do seem a little over the top, but they are tasked at breaking into market where most people have already made up their mind what they are going to trust in the weapon. And trust is not something they are going to earn until some history of the round exists or someone better than me runs a real test on it that says "yey" or "nay" to their claims. While I am skeptical of things like this as well, like QKShooter, I won't rule them out. If Winchester or Federal or Remington would have made the exact same claim, for the exact same ammunition, made out of the same "ny trillium", with the exact same name we would all be willing to try it (if it was affordable). Right now, the price is a little rich for my blood to shoot too much of it but I would not hesitate to at least try it.

I have no clue what "ny trillium" really is, but if you don't trust the integrity of modern plastics/composites, all of you that love a plastic frame may want to start looking for a different gun. That being said, there is a plastic nose on their "Air Freedom Rounds" that sorta looks like a kid's toy :frog:

Bet my life on it at this point? Hell no! But if their claims prove to be true, I might. I say "might" because I have the same concerns voiced above about a lawyer in court raking me over the coals over a particular round's physical characteristics or name. Our CCW instructor recommended carrying the same thing that the local police carry on duty. In Mesa, AZ that's Golden Sabers....
 

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kevmullins said:
Last year, I was able to take a whitetail with the 150 gr. .30-06 round. The resulting devistation was pretty amazing. I happen to live in the same small town where this stuff is produced. During deer season, the local sporting goods store is pretty full of evidence of the rounds effectiveness. The owner started out just making reloads and selling them locally....I've used his stuff for several years. I do think his new rounds are WAY too expensive...but for defensive use, it's well worth the money.
We saw this ammunition at the SHOT Show and while it looked like it would be effective in a defensive situation, the resulting fragmented round (mostly very small particles and "dustlike" material) doesn't look like something I would want to use on an animal I was going to eat. I like venison, but grit (not grits) is normally avoided in my diet. Does the fragmented round in reality make the mess that the display in their marketing materials?
 
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