[silvercorvette]

The sale price is listed at $83.64 I wonder what the regular price is? I wouldn't feel comfortable carrying that stuff till I ran a few boxes through my gun to see how it functioned. $80 is a small price to pay where your life is concerned but I need to have more proof before I spend that kind of money. I don’t hunt but I would love to see someone that does use this stuff and report back with the results. At these prices that is probably the only way we will get to see what this stuff does on real flesh and bone because I can’t see any departments running out to buy this stuff.
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45ACP 185gr Tungsten-Nytrilium Fragmentable Explosive Entry Fang Face Round(Jacketed Hollow Point) - 1150fps - 50 Round Box $83.64SALE
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[silvercorvette]

One shot through the skin of an aircraft will not cause any noticable decompression. It would most likley take a couple hundred rounds to do it. That whole decompression thing is a Hollywood myth.

 

[silvercorvette]

I would not want to chance it. But thanks for teh info, I was not aware of that.

I have been telling this to people and arguing for many years it can't happen. Last year the “Myth Buster” TV show busted the myth.


http://dsc.discovery.com/fansites/mythbusters/episode/episode_04.html

SEASON 1

Episode 10: Explosive Decompression, Frog Giggin', Rear Axle
Jamie and Adam get trigger-happy trying to shoot down myths regarding firearms. First, they fire a bullet into the shell of an aircraft to find out if a single shot can cause explosive decompression — and total aircraft destruction. Speaking of heavy artillery, they'll test the story of two hunters who claim to have used a loaded .22 caliber gun cartridge as a replacement fuse in a car's ignition. Will the experiment backfire? Finally, they take on a movie myth when they try to rip a car off its rear axle. What could possibly go wrong?

I carry Hydra-Shok ammo, I don’t trust any of the fancy hi tech stuff after I read this article about Magsafe a few years ago.


http://www.firearmstactical.com/tacticalbriefs/volume4/number3/article432.htm

 

[silvercorvette]

Cuts both ways.
On the one hand you have the possible "extra severe" wound channel and bodily damage to the BG ~ but that is very much counterbalanced by the lack of ricochet & penetration through walls, etc. in order to decrease the likelihood of possible injury to innocent and non~involved bystanders.
So...YOU have selected your particular ammo to better protect the general public rather than to cause more harm to the perp.
As long as the manufacturer of the frangible ammo CAREFULLY selects the correct name for their product you should be OK in court.
I do not think you want to carry any defensive ammo called "Grim Reaper II" or BlackDeath or SkullBuster...for the very same reason that you do not want to have Skull & Crossbones or Black Widow Spider grips on your self defensive carry pistol.
Somebody sure will "grab that ball" & run away with it in court and it will NOT EVER be to your advantage.
That is the main reason I go with Glaser SAFETY Slugs rather than Black Talon.

My main concern is to stay alive long enough to get to court. I think Hydra-Shoks will do that better the Glaser. I don't care if Hydra-Shoks have a incorrect name. If they keep me alive I will deal with the name in court. I prefer to select ammo on the basis of how well it has preformed over time. I am not against new technology but I am going to stick to what has worked in the past. I just wait a few years to see how well this new stuff works before I make any changes.

 

[silvercorvette]

Dr. Martin L. Fackler served as a combat surgeon in Vietman in 1968. A fellow of both the American College of Surgeons and the American Academy of Forensic Sciences, he also is an author, expert witness and lecturer on wound ballistics and surgery, and former director of the Wound Ballistics Laboratory at Presidio.

http://www.firearmstactical.com/briefs5.htm

I was trying to find that link, thank you for finding it for me, I was aware of it and that is why I don’t use Mag safe or and other fancy frangible ammo. But I try to keep an open mind to new technology. I will keep an eye on any new stuff and read all the tests but I won’t use it till I am satisfied it has proven it self in the field for a few years.