[G27owner]

I was headed home around 2 am last Friday night after having a couple beers with my buddies. So after about 5 minutes of driving i see a cop make a sudden U-Turn and he quickly turned his lights on. I pulled over in a little parking lot and the first thing i did was roll my window down and put my palms on the ceiling of the car roof. As he approached me i quickly and clearly announced to him that i was open carrying a handgun. He asked where the pistol was located and i simply replied that it was laying on my front passenger seat next to me. So he just asked me to open the door and present my drivers license... and that was it. He told me what i was pulled over for and told me to slow down and to go on about my business.

Couldn't have gone any better! I hope all LEO are as professional as him :king:

 

[RETSUPT99]

I was headed home around 2 am last Friday night after having a couple beers with my buddies. So after about 5 minutes of driving i see a cop make a sudden U-Turn and he quickly turned his lights on. I pulled over in a little parking lot and the first thing i did was roll my window down and put my palms on the ceiling of the car roof. As he approached me i quickly and clearly announced to him that i was open carrying a handgun. He asked where the pistol was located and i simply replied that it was laying on my front passenger seat next to me. So he just asked me to open the door and present my drivers license... and that was it. He told me what i was pulled over for and told me to slow down and to go on about my business.

Couldn't have gone any better! I hope all LEO are as professional as him :king:

Yes, and then...No! OMO

Glad this stop was uneventful in a couple of ways. (Probably not a good idea to smell like beer, while CCW...IMHO)

 

[Dal1Celt]

Yes, and then...No! OMO

Glad this stop was uneventful in a couple of ways. (Probably not a good idea to smell like beer, while CCW...IMHO)

+1 To Retsupt

 

[NCTom]

Always glad to hear a clean stop. I gotta say after reading the beers comment I thought the story was going to end differently.

 

[OldVet]

Good stop reactions on both sides. Sounds like the Cop did what he should have done. Surprised he didn't ask to see you CWP.

I see so many replies worries about extreme LEO reaction (throwing CWP holder on the ground, harrassing, etc.). We don't need LEOs who react like that against a legitimate CWP holder, and they need to be reported and weeded out.

 

[CCWINNC]

NC law states that you cannot carry concealed while having alcohol in your system. I know you stated that you where open carrying but that is to the determination of the officer and since NC law also requires you state that you have a concealed handgun permit and you have a weapon ....might not be construed as open carrying.....be careful...my rule is alcohol and guns never mix whether legal or not.

 

[sigmanluke]

What, no investigation into the alcohol by the officer?

As others have said, alcohol and guns don't mix. I understand you have the right to protect yourself even while drinking, but it's not in your best interest. Too much ammo given to the prosecutor if you have alcohol in your system.

 

[billpocz]

IMVHO, the CCing with alcohol is one issue, but more so is the issue of driving with alcohol.

Just a friendly caution!!

 

[Jim Macklin]

Why?

I was headed home around 2 am last Friday night after having a couple beers with my buddies. So after about 5 minutes of driving i see a cop make a sudden U-Turn and he quickly turned his lights on. I pulled over in a little parking lot and the first thing i did was roll my window down and put my palms on the ceiling of the car roof. As he approached me i quickly and clearly announced to him that i was open carrying a handgun. He asked where the pistol was located and i simply replied that it was laying on my front passenger seat next to me. So he just asked me to open the door and present my drivers license... and that was it. He told me what i was pulled over for and told me to slow down and to go on about my business.

Couldn't have gone any better! I hope all LEO are as professional as him :king:

So, why were you pulled over? Wrong color car, too fast or too slow? Burnt out light?

 

[chiefjason]

FWIW, there is no law in NC concerning alcohol and OC. You could legally OC stumbling drunk. I would not recommend that. Glad it went well. I do recommend being very careful with the alcohol and guns. You know your limit, I hope. Mines so low anymore, that it's a no go for me. I had enough in college to last the better part of my lifetime. :danceban:

 

[usmc3169]

the "drinking with my buddies" comment bugs me as well. alcohol and guns are a no no, more so for driving and alcohol! Glad you made it home with out getting hurt!

 

[Frogbones]

ahh jeez...here we go with the achohol and gun comments.

So what if bugs ya.....I'm sure the OP is mature enough to know what is what, and the consiquences there of. Give a bit of credit, no?

I don't mind at all that he had a couple of beers.

Heck I've had a couple of beers...(ghasp even a jack and coke one time) while carrying. I didn't turn into a yosamiddysam (sp) or go looking for something for me to draw my weapon on, or become arogant like some drunken patron from Tombstone the movie.

We are pretty much mature adults here I like to believe...and not in need of so much of the scorn I see.

Glad the OP had a good EXP...obviously wasn't to intoxicated for the LEO to notice...and he made it home safe. To maybe have a few more beers?

 

[sigmanluke]

The problem I was getting at with the alcohol isn't his judgment or aggressiveness. It is with the likelihood of prosecution based on the alcohol, where if there were none, the likelihood is much different. If people choose to put themselves at risk that way, it's their choice.

 

[javabum]

I don't mean to offend anyone but,too defend an individual who admittedly was drinking and driving is absurd.And to add the fact that hes carrying.
The anti's have enough ammo,why give them more to fight with.
Although your stop went good for you,drinking and driving is not a bright thing to dne poster even said the OP is mature enough to know whats what,and he didn't have a problem with it and hes even done it.Well i say if he was an adult and mature,he wouldn't have done it.
To me this dose not show good judgment,and responsible carrying.I have to honestly say after reading this,if this is what being a responsible citizen is about im on the wrong site.

 

[Frogbones]

If people choose to put themselves at risk that way, it's their choice.

Agreed.

Not really directed to you sigman.

How 'bout this. If the judgement and impairedness doesn't bother or isn't a factor.

Then how is mild alcohol intake (if it's legal to do so in your state) any more against him than say... legally modifying his gun? If he has a good SD shoot and all FACTS point that he is in the right...what's the big deal.

 

[Frogbones]

The anti's have enough ammo,why give them more to fight with.
Although your stop went good for you,drinking and driving is not a bright thing to do.

No not offended, and I agree with the drink and driving part...I don't care for that either if above the legal limit....but if he was under the legal limit again..where is the issue?

Well why not defend him if he was all legal? He's getting a bum rap..for being all legal (I'm giving him benifet of the doubt aka credit).

Heck even the LEO deemed him legal...except the reason for being pulled over. While some will jump on here and start the all holier than thou rant on gun and alcohol :/

What do you mean give the "anti's" more ammo... I don't live by what to, or what not to give to the "anti's".

 

[sigmanluke]

Agreed.

Not really directed to you sigman.

How 'bout this. If the judgment and impairedness doesn't bother or isn't a factor.

Then how is mild alcohol intake (if it's legal to do so in your state) any more against him than say... legally modifying his gun? If he has a good SD shoot and all FACTS point that he is in the right...what's the big deal.

I wouldn't put the two even in the same arena with each other. I'm also not saying I condone drinking and driving. On the contrary, I arrest people who do it. Notice in my first post the question as to no investigation into it by the officer.

Again, having alcohol in your system while carrying, legal or not, is not a smart move, and IMO should NOT be legal anywhere. Legally modifying your gun doesn't even come close to having alcohol in your system and getting into a SD shooting.

Other opinions may vary.

 

[Frogbones]

Other opinions may vary.

Agreed.

I even share some of you opinion...but not to the extent.

Heck when I choose to start CC I pretty much stopped all drinking except when @ home....under the "it's not a good idea" but I think some take it a bit to far and bare/push it onto other persons what they think what is what....that's what bugs me.

 

[javabum]

Like i said i don't mean to offend.I am and always have been pro 2A.
And as a responsible citizen i don't condone drinking and driving.Even if it were legal for the OP to do so i find it hard to defend this action.
Yes,we do all have opinions.That's what makes for good discussion.

I'm not one of those holier than tho kind of people,but i have had alcoholic family members and have had friends die due to drinking and driving.So yes,i am anti drinking and driving.And i am also anti drinking and carrying and driving.

If i offended anyone i apologize.But i think to post on an open forum
for any an all to see,and admitting your drinking and driving,need a refresher course in responsibility.

 

[Landric]

No not offended, and I agree with the drink and driving part...I don't care for that either if above the legal limit....but if he was under the legal limit again..where is the issue?

The concept of the "legal limit" is pretty misunderstood. The "legal limit" is actually the BAC where one is presumptively impaired, that is, the point where the law assumes that one is impaired and the state doesn't have to prove it. One can be arrested and convicted of DWI in North Carolina with any testable amount of alcohol in one's system if the state can prove impairment. So, since I'm not much of a drinker, I'm pretty impaired at a .05. If I was stupid enough to drive and I was stopped, I could be rightly arrested and convicted of DWI under NC law.

Then, one has to factor in the fact that any testable amount of alcohol in one's system invalidates a CHP in North Carolina. While the OP posted this in the OC forum, the fact that he displayed his permit at least implies that he thought it was possible he was carrying concealed, and its difficult to open carry in a vehicle in NC and not meet someone's definition of concealed (though it is possible). Its correct that nothing in NC law prohibits open carry with alcohol in one's system, but inside a vehicle its kind of a gray area.

I wasn't there, so I have no idea if the OP was impaired or not, smelled like beer or not, or anything else. Even if he did its possible the officer missed it, I'm sure I've missed some impaired drivers in my time, especially if they were not plowed.

Its food for thought, one needs to be careful when it comes to drinking and driving or carrying. My policy is not to do either if I have had anything, which means mostly I drink at home or somewhere I can stay overnight.