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Thought this might be useful to post for info' sake.
Every gun owner who lives in Florida or comes to Florida as a tourist or
visitor or on business needs to join this fight to protect the right to
have a firearm in vehicles for lawful purposes. This right belongs to
ALL gun owners everywhere -- not just those who live in Florida. Please
forward this email to others on your email list. Spread the word.

URGENT-- MORE ACTION NEEDED*** /Possession/Guns/Private Vehicles

DATE: March 3, 2006
TO: USF & NRA Members and Friends
FROM: Marion P. Hammer
NRA Past President
Executive Director Unified Sportsmen of Florida

SUBJECT: SB-206 Protect Possession of Firearms in Vehicles in Parking
Lots

The Senate Criminal Justice Committee will hold another hearing on
SB-206 by Senator Durell Peaden Wednesday, March 8, 2006.

Some Florida businesses, lead by the Florida Chamber of Commerce and the
Florida Retail Federation, are trying to ban guns in cars. They are
violating the constitutional rights of gun owners and Florida law.

SB-206 protects your right to have a gun in your vehicle (car, truck,
minivan, sports utility vehicle, motorcycle, motor home, RV, etc.) for
lawful purposes.

The Florida Chamber of Commerce and the Florida Retail Federation have
decided to trample privacy rights and the Second Amendment rights of
Florida's 6 Million law-abiding firearms owners.

Urged into battle by Publix Super Markets, Disney World, and other big
corporations, they have engaged in a campaign to try to kill the bill
that protects your right to protect yourself and your family.

They want to ban guns by denying your right to have a firearm in your
private vehicle when you park in a parking lot that accommodates the
public and company employees.

Your right to have a gun in your car is GUTTED if you can never stop and
park your car in a parking lot.

Big business is trying to claim their rights as parking lot owners
supersede your constitutional right and legal right to carry firearms in
your private vehicles for lawful purposes. But they are wrong.

They have no constitutional or legal right to search your vehicle or
tell you what legal personal private property you can have inside your
private vehicle in their parking lot or anywhere else.

Our constitutional and legal rights DO NOT END when we drive into a
parking lot.

Carrying firearms in a vehicle obviously means you can leave that
firearm locked in the vehicle in a parking lot when you go grocery
shopping, to the doctor's office, to the movie, to visit a sick friend
in the hospital, to the dry cleaners, to the shoe store or anywhere else
normal people travel.

THIS ISSUE is much bigger than parking lots. The issue is carrying a
firearm in your private vehicle for protection of yourself and your
family when you are traveling to and from work, to and from shopping and
to and from any place law-abiding citizens normally go in the course of
daily routines.

The Florida Chamber of Commerce and the Florida Retail Federation along
with the national antigun organization called the BRADY CAMPAIGN are
emailing committee members urging them to vote against SB-206.

YOU NEED TO ACT NOW to counter this antigun attack on your Second
Amendment and self-defense rights.

Please immediately send email to members of the Senate Criminal Justice
Committee and URGE THEM TO SUPPORT SB-206 by Senator Peaden.

(Below is a list of the email addresses of those you need to contact)

IN THE SUBJECT LINE OF YOUR EMAIL PUT:

SUPPORT SB-206 - Protect Possession of Firearms in Vehicles/Parking Lots


(To send one email to all committee members at the same time, block or
highlight the entire list and then copy and paste the block into the
address section of the email.)

SENATE CRIMINAL JUSTICE COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND SENATE LEADERS WHO NEED TO
HEAR FROM YOU:

[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]

PLEASE SEND EMAIL IMMEDIATELY AND URGE THEM TO SUPPORT SB-206 by Senator
Durell Peaden

ADDITIONAL BACKGROUND:

SB-206 Protects your right to have a firearm in your vehicle for lawful
purposes and to park your vehicle in parking lots.

Think about the women, who work late hours at Disney World and don't get
off until close to midnight. She needs her gun for protection when she
is traveling late at night.

But Disney will fire her if she exercises her right to have a gun in her
vehicle for protection.

The many women and Moms who work late at night as cashiers and stock
personnel at Publix Super Markets will lose their jobs if they want to
protect their lives.

What about the women AND men who work at all-night pharmacies, or
Walmart stores or convenience stores, or what about nurses or lab
technicians who work late shifts and have to drive to and from work
through dangerous areas late at night? Are their lives not important?

Think about a woman who is being stalked or who has to get a domestic
violence injunction against an abuser. Police often tell these women to
get a gun for protection because police can't be there to protect them.

But her anti-gun employer tells her if she brings a gun to work in her
car for protection she'll be fired. She must chose between her life or
her job.

This violation of rights and the law MUST BE STOPPED.

Carrying firearms in a vehicle for hunting, target shooting or
protection of yourself and your family obviously means you can leave
that firearm locked in the vehicle in a parking lot when you go grocery
shopping, to the doctor's office, to the movie, to visit a sick friend
in the hospital, to rent a movie, to the shoe store or anywhere else
normal people travel to conduct business.

Florida law, the U.S. Constitution, and the Florida Constitution clearly
and unequivocally give law-abiding citizens to have firearms in their
vehicles for lawful purposes.

Since there are CURRENTLY NO PENALTIES for violating the law, numerous
businesses are violating the law and are banning firearms in their
parking lots. Their gun ban policies apply to customers and employees.

A business owner or manager has no more right to say you can't have a
firearm in your private vehicle than they have a right to say you can't
have a pair of sun glasses, an umbrella, a Bible or a baby seat.

Such an anti-gun political exercise is not good business sense. They
want your money but don't respect your rights.

Businesses are not allowed to discriminate against employees and
customers because of race, religion, political party, color of eyes,
hair or weight. And they certainly can't discriminate because of the
exercise of lawful self-defense. And, make no mistake, these gun ban
policies are blatant discrimination against people who chose to exercise
a constitutional right and take responsibility for their own safety.
 

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What i don't understand about all this is,how are they gonna know that you have a firearm in your vech. if you keep your mouth shut and don't tell anybody. Correct me if I'm wrong but the company that you work for can tell you that you can't bring firearms onto their property,but do they plan to search every vech ?? Can they legally search every vech ?? -------
 

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This is just one of the reasons that I teach my students that CCW is a very private thing. Very few people need to know that you have a weapon on your person. Several that come to mind is your spouse,and anybody that you train with and have the potential to fight along side of should you be together and SHTF. The latter persons and I have a code that we will say to each other at first meeting. This way we know what the capabilities of the other people are in the WCS. With the codes, we will let each other know if we are carring a firearm,blade,SAP,expandable baton,etc. Kinda extreme...? Works for us. -------
 

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RSSZ said:
What i don't understand about all this is,how are they gonna know that you have a firearm in your vech. if you keep your mouth shut and don't tell anybody. Correct me if I'm wrong but the company that you work for can tell you that you can't bring firearms onto their property,but do they plan to search every vech ?? Can they legally search every vech ?? -------
Well, let's put it this way: Say you have an antigun work policy or an antigun shopkeeper whom you happen to be stupidly patronizing. Sure they'll never know if you've got a gun in your car as long as you never need it on the premises. But if you DO need it and this law is allowed to stand, then you open yourself to an expensive lawsuit quite aside from the actual shooting incident (which is already covered by the just enacted "Castle Doctrine" expansion. I'm not sure a legal action based on the property violation would be covered by the new law and lawsuits are SO expensive.
 

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But if you DO need it and this law is allowed to stand, then you open yourself to an expensive lawsuit
That Jim was the angle I had been considering - all fine until ..........
 

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I'm not surprised that Disney is supporting this. They've been in bed with the Brady bunch for a long time.

I will never buy any Disney product or support Disney in any way, shape or form, including watching their feel-good, namby-pamby movies.:mad:
 

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Down with the MOUSE!

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I'm not surprised that Disney is supporting this. They've been in bed with the Brady bunch for a long time.

I will never buy any Disney product or support Disney in any way, shape or form, including watching their feel-good, namby-pamby movies.:mad:
It's no accident, either. The ceo's for Disney have been on board with the globalist NWO agenda for decades. Ever ceo has been a member of the Council on Foreign Relations...these guys specialize in melding together their customers into one great big huge happy ACCEPTING family....just like a single world with no nations or national borders or sovereign armies beyond the almighty UN. Why do you think they sponsor GAY DAY in this supposedly "family friendly" venue?
 
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