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I did a impromptu clearballistics FBI BARE gel test today. 6"x6"x16" with wood backstop
It was 17 degrees F, 61% humidity, Pressure 30.3%
I used my .45 Shield
Federal HST 230gr= penetrated 11 1/2" expanded .82
Federal HST 230 gr +P= penetrated 11 3/4" expanded .80
Critical duty 220 +P = passed through block. recovered in wood .51"
Underwood Extreme defense 120gr=passed through block recovered in wood
Winchester Ranger 230gr (RA45T)=penetrated 11 1/2" expanded .75-.85"
Widest petal was .85
Winchester Ranger 230gr+P (RA45TP)=penetrated 14 3/4" expanded .75-.85
I then shot 4 more rounds of Ranger 230gr+P and they went from 14 1/2" to 14 7/8"
So with my little test I will be carrying the Ranger 230+P.
Just thought you might be interested in the results.
The Federal HST expand beautifully but don't even penetrate to 12" with the shorter Shield barrel.
 

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No surprises, particularly with the Underwood and the Rangers. Thanks for posting.
 

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I'll continue to either use the ranger T or Hst loading in all my 45's, as I have for quite some time now. I'm not interested in the latest greatest boutique ammo, the former two will remain for duty. Thanks for posting your results, I've carried the shield 45 for months [ exclusively ] now.
 

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Here is update.
I did Speer Gold dot 230gr Standard pressure=13"penetration with .625 expansion
Corbon DPX 185gr+P=14 1/2" penetration with .75 expansion
I still like the Ranger 230+P so far with 14 1/2-14 3/4" penetration and .85 expansion at widest point.
One Corbon turned completely around 180degrees
Both expanded nicely
 

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I did a impromptu clearballistics FBI BARE gel test today. 6"x6"x16" with wood backstop
It was 17 degrees F, 61% humidity, Pressure 30.3%
I used my .45 Shield
Federal HST 230gr= penetrated 11 1/2" expanded .82
Federal HST 230 gr +P= penetrated 11 3/4" expanded .80
Critical duty 220 +P = passed through block. recovered in wood .51"
Underwood Extreme defense 120gr=passed through block recovered in wood
Winchester Ranger 230gr (RA45T)=penetrated 11 1/2" expanded .75-.85"
Widest petal was .85
Winchester Ranger 230gr+P (RA45TP)=penetrated 14 3/4" expanded .75-.85
I then shot 4 more rounds of Ranger 230gr+P and they went from 14 1/2" to 14 7/8"
So with my little test I will be carrying the Ranger 230+P.
Just thought you might be interested in the results.
The Federal HST expand beautifully but don't even penetrate to 12" with the shorter Shield barrel.
Thanks so much for the info. At this time, I have a few boxes of Federal 230gr HST +P and one box of Winchester Ranger 230gr JHP +P (RA45TP). I have been trying to get my hands on some Gold Dot 200gr JHP +P (53969) but it's hard to find now.
 

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After a careful evaluation 3 or 4 years ago, I decided on Ranger 'T' as my SD ammo of choice for both .45 ACP and 9mm, with HST's right up there as a close 2nd. Gold Dots are third on my list. All three are so close in performance that I'm willing to bet that no dead BG ever expressed a preference.
 
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I'll continue to either use the ranger T or Hst loading in all my 45's, as I have for quite some time now. I'm not interested in the latest greatest boutique ammo, the former two will remain for duty. Thanks for posting your results, I've carried the shield 45 for months [ exclusively ] now.
I take it you prefer the Shield 45 over a LW Commander?
 

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I take it you prefer the Shield 45 over a LW Commander?
I do, for a few reasons Bob

1. It's thinner 1.05 vs 1.25
2. It's lighter 20 vs 29 ounces unloaded [ but it gives up one round along with my gov models so there is some trade-off there ]
3. no manual safety/no grip safety to manipulate [ though I don't use the thumb safety on a 1911 to begin with, there/s still always a potential for it to be snicked on while being carried and that's a surprise I can do without
4. Recoil on the shield 45 doesn't appear to be any more than my lw commanders, certainly I can't tell much if any difference ]
5. Accuracy seems on par with the commanders, in my hand/s anyway

All that said, I really enjoy the lw comanders and have owned and carried them on the street for decades along with gov models.
 

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Muchly appreciated... I've been carrying Federal HST or Hornady Critical Defense in mine the past month, this is some reassuring information.
 

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Interesting, thanks. How was the recoil with those +P Rangers? Seems like it would be a bear out of a light gun with a two-finger grip.
 

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Interesting, thanks. How was the recoil with those +P Rangers? Seems like it would be a bear out of a light gun with a two-finger grip.
I get a full grip on my shield with either the flush or extended mag. The flush mag is a little tight to get the 3 on the grip, but one would have to have some really fat fingers to only get 2 on the flush mag grip.
 

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It wasn't bad at all the Ranger 230 +P. I use the 7 round mag so I easily get a good purchase on the grip
 
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