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My wife and I are looking into getting memeberships at frontsight, I was just wondering what every one thought. how are there classes, are there instuctors big headed "mall ninjas", are the classes in depth or just a quick run through?
 

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IMO you would be better served with a different school. Suarez, Pincus, TDI, Haley, Costa....
 

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Being in Utah it would be a good training place to go to a couple times a year. I just got my lifetime membership after going to a 4 day defensive handgun course. My plan is to go once in the Fall and once in the Spring while the weather is about right. The only downside is paying the $50 a year to get the NICS background check. Good way to keep the skills up and learn new ones.

Are there better training places? Sure; but they are cost prohibitive to me. That place stays very busy during their Spring and Fall months. One day there was around 500 people there in training. A bunch of them from Colorado, Utah, CA, AZ, and Texas. All those places have firearms training so there must be something good about FS to bring them there....
 

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I'll take training where there are 8-12 folks on line that are already familiar with a 360 degree range and can manipulate a gun with no issues (they have done this before) and know how to operate on a Hot Range. I feel very safe in this environment with all guns loaded all the time. None of this unload and show clear, then load and make ready! 20 folks on the firing line with 3 RO's is not my cup of tea. I have shot IPSC for 23 years and taken 5 gun fighting courses in the last 4 years. There is a big difference between the two, but it is not hard to transition from one to the other and then to everyday CCW.
 
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Done 4 day front sight defensive handgun course down in Pahrump and tactical weapon class here in Utah. Both were very good. I had no problem with the front sight approach. It is not very flexible the first 2 days but then they were supportive of other approaches within the boundaries of safety. I felt both significantly improved my skills. I was on a heart medication while at front sight which made my hands tremble and made me quite weak and caused blurred vision but they were very patient with me (glad to be off that nasty stuff). Needless to say I did not win the shootoff the final day :( but I had a lot of fun.
 

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The reason I want to go to Front Sight is we are getting a really good deal on the memberships.
 

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I'll take training where there are 8-12 folks on line that are already familiar with a 360 degree range and can manipulate a gun with no issues (they have done this before) and know how to operate on a Hot Range. I feel very safe in this environment with all guns loaded all the time. None of this unload and show clear, then load and make ready! 20 folks on the firing line with 3 RO's is not my cup of tea. I have shot IPSC for 23 years and taken 5 gun fighting courses in the last 4 years. There is a big difference between the two, but it is not hard to transition from one to the other and then to everyday CCW.
It is unfortunate that most will never experience a 360 degree range, when we live in a 360 degree world....
 
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I attended a 4 day defensive handgun course last week at FS. June 3-June 6. This class is geared to safely train students of all experience levels. We had students in our group who brought their brand new pistol and fired their first rounds ever in this class. We also had one student who had been through the class three times previously and brought his teenage son. We had no law enforcement or military members, which from what I could tell is not normal. For those who have had previous training, it starts slow. It is however a good chance to brush up on basics. On the 3rd day it starts picking up speed and keeps it up through the end. They have their own techniques which they ask you to try. They don't make you as long as your technique is safe. The instructors are knowledgeable and professional. No drill instructors. All of them, I feel, were there to truly help you improve your skill.

If you have a chance to do it, I don't believe you would regret it. You will still receive better training than 90% of the gun owning public.
 

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The reason I want to go to Front Sight is we are getting a really good deal on the memberships.
Do you want a membership or training? Front Sight has been up and down, I personally would go to Gun Sight in AZ before Front Sight! and I live in Las Vegas!
 

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Front Sight Training

I haven't been on this sight for awhile and am now reopening an old Thread:

My wife and I attended our initial (2 day basic handgun) course this past June. Our experience there was remarkable. My wife went from hating the recoil of our 9mm pistols to becoming a confident shooter able to correctly respond to the various malfunction drills and place all of her "double-taps" within a hand's space. It was stance and the proper hold that was her major help. I fired a 4.5 in 9mm XDM and she fired a 4.25 9mm S&W M&P.

As further background -- I fired Army pistols on the range several times each year for over 30 years, but I received more actual hands-on-training in those two days at "Front Sight" than in all my 30 years in the Army. I AM SERIOUS -- Front Sight is the most professional training I've ever seen!!! Groups are divided into about 20 to 30 and then divided in half with one half doing the exercise and the other half acting as a watching coach with three to four instructors trooping the line looking for ways to help.

Even though it was very hot in June - they did some lengthy classes in an air-conditioned building and the varied the hands-on-training with mini-classes under a shade with 10 to 30 minute practical exercises afterwards. The day went by FAST!!

We elected to stay in a Pahrump, NV in the Saddle West Casino. They offered a special rate to life-time Front Sight members. The special rate included a buffet breakfast with eggs & waffles to order in addition to an extensive buffet offering.

PM me if you have an interest in attending "Front Sight" this year!
 

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Done 4 day front sight defensive handgun course down in Pahrump and tactical weapon class here in Utah. Both were very good. I had no problem with the front sight approach. It is not very flexible the first 2 days but then they were supportive of other approaches within the boundaries of safety. I felt both significantly improved my skills. I was on a heart medication while at front sight which made my hands tremble and made me quite weak and caused blurred vision but they were very patient with me (glad to be off that nasty stuff). Needless to say I did not win the shootoff the final day :( but I had a lot of fun.
PAHRUMP. . .

Home of Art Bell. Woo Hoo!!
 

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Hay Burt from Utah. . .

Could you order 6 eggs at a shot??

I loves me SOME EGGS!!
 

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I picked up a couple of 2 day courses to go back and review for my wife and I (took the 4 day course) Felt it really improved my shooting. I especially appreciated their instruction on moving the cover garment/coat to clear for draw from concealment. Good stuff. We had a couple cops, some instructors and one fed in our class.

Hey, also Pahrump is also home to at least 2 , um, how to say it? Homes for working girls:smile: And one of them offers better rates than the motels. I passed because I thought the sounds from the rooms next door might not be conducive to sleep.
 

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Hey, Farside, what did they teach about the draw, just out of curiosity?
 

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For an untucked shirt (I'm right handed) reach over with left hand, grab shirt tail and pull straight up then toward front as a grasp weapon. As weapon comes up and points forward grasp with left hand as I push it forward. For jackets just sweep it back with right hand and then draw as usual. The up and forward move with the left hand works very well for me. Prior to that I tried to clear it with my shooting hand which works less than 100% of the time for me (usually worked but sometimes, ah heck).
 

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For an untucked shirt (I'm right handed) reach over with left hand, grab shirt tail and pull straight up then toward front as a grasp weapon. As weapon comes up and points forward grasp with left hand as I push it forward. For jackets just sweep it back with right hand and then draw as usual. The up and forward move with the left hand works very well for me. Prior to that I tried to clear it with my shooting hand which works less than 100% of the time for me (usually worked but sometimes, ah heck).
Thanks. I wonder how many schools teach a strictly one-handed draw?
 

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Be sure to continue to practice your one-handed draw.

In a closer-range confrontation, we can't count on our support hand being able to be used to clear cover clothing.

Similarly, if you're typically out/about with a loved one, you'll also want to consider the possibility that the reaction hand may be occupied with controlling that/those person(s).

Don't let go or relegate the single-handed skill to a secondary spot just because the two-handed is quicker or more efficient or more certain. :smile:

If you're failing at being able to execute the single-handed draw with good, repeatable success, it's worth slowing down to find exactly what's causing the problem and finding a reasonable solution around it.
 
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