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No Laughing. I was talking to my fiancée about concealed carry, (I’m trying to convince her to take the course), she started talking about clothing and I thought she was trying to change the subject. As it turns out she ended up teaching me some stuff, go figure. She was talking about how clothing alters apperance like vertical stripes make a person appear taller, horizontal stripes make a person appear heavier, pleated pants hide stomach bulges etc. My question is, Does anyone know of any reference material covering this material.? I think it would be great to apply to concealed carry. All my internet searches have led to vests, jackets and fanny packs, and haven’t found anything of value at the local library. Any help would be appreciated.
 

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If your buying t-shirts get ones that are heavier cotton and stick to darker colors. Those conceal the best because they are "print resistant".
 

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Go Hawaiian,

The semi-loud print shirts tend to hide bulges also.

There have been several threads about just this topic not to long ago.

Some other with good advice will be along shortly
 

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She has pointed out basic fashion information. So when you search do it on fashion info with nothing about guns or CCW.

Buy your clothes one size to big. Form fitting stuff may look good, but you will not be able to effectively conceal anything. If you carry IWB definitely be sure your pants are a size bigger in the waist, maybe two sizes bigger depending.

Big and Tall stuff has a more generous cut and deeper pockets. I don't need B&T, but I often buy B&T for those reasons. Again makes it a lot easier to conceal my guns. I can drop a G17 into the front pocket of my B&T pants and all you can make out is the mag base if you have the right angle to look into the pocket.

If possible take your carry rig with you when buying clothes. This way you can ensure that the clothes will work for your carry method. Also be sure to run through your entire range of motion to ensure that your gun stays concealed. I do this in the dressing room and then have my wife check everything before a decision is made.

I'm sure there is more good info to come.
 

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Fabric Patterns

Just a couple of thoughts. Seems like shirts with straight lines--vertical or horizontal, alternating in light and dark--would print worse than solid dark colors or patterns with curvy lines. The straight lines would be broken by the outline of the weapon. So whereas vertical stripes would make a person appear thinner, or horizontal stripes would make thin people appear thicker, they might not be a good choice for CCW.
 

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Im a redneck and you REALLY DONT want to know any more about my fashon sense LOL
 

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Just get a shirt with prints of all sorts of rifles and guns on them....so when you print, it is just the print, not you printing.
 

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Carrying cloths / holsters

1:IWB means larger waist sizes
2:Shirts with tails are a little easier to get up over your weapon when drawing
3: Closely checkered patterns will help break up the lines if you are printing.
4. Stick with darker colors and patterns that aren't straight lines in any direction.
5. Thin, white shirts are a nono, IF I CAN SEE YOUR GLOCK UNDER YOUR SHIRT YOUR WRONG.
6. Carpenters pants have a built in mag pouch that can hold 2 single stacks pretty darn nice.
7. Buy suit jackets a little looser to accomodate a shoulder holster and/or give you more range of motion to draw.
8. Fobus roto holsters will loosen up and dump your gun on the floor at the worst possible time(me in the mall, you should have seen the look on the face of the guy behind me)
9. Never carry your weapon when shopping with a woman, you may be tempted to end your suffering.
10. Have 2 holsters and or two different carry guns that can roughly be put in the same positon on your body, one for hotter weather and one for cooler, mastering one draw is better than mastering 3 or 4 pending on what your carrying.
That is the best thing about 1911's and Glocks if you ask me, pretty much same holster and operation wether it's full size or sub compact
 

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Cover Garments

Case in Point: At a match the other day my mother and grand parents came to watch (me get my azz handed to me, but thats another story). My grandmother commented on my ugly hawian shirt ($9.99 at wally world, and yes I did cary when I went to get it), and asked why I was wearing 'that thing'.

So I explained why we always cary to/from the range (never mind why we cary else where, thats a debate for another day). Turns out she was asking about the shirt, and didn't notice the 1911 OWB till I pointed it out. And even even after showing her where the gun was, and pulling the shirt tight to show it printing it was _still_ hard for her to see where the grip was.

Lesson: loud and ugly cover shirts work well, and my paranoia that the light shirt was printing for all to see was just that.

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Not to say others are wrong, but for me, when i began carrying IWB i did not hafta upsize my pants size.
i don't wear'em skin tight (others may disagree) but the fit how they should fit IMHO. not loose and droopy nor 'painted on' and i have bneen able to contuinue with my saem size.
now i do carry a 1911 so its thinner than a glock or other similar DA gun which may make a difference.
 

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It's my belief that the more you know the less that can be used about you. Theres a whole school of thought out there on how to dress for concealment of physical defects that I think could increase my creativity for carrying a concealed weapon. I've carried for 16 years now and have never been "made" by someone who didn't know me, (those who really know me, know I always carry) but I do have to admit that I do dress differently than the average citizen. Normally in small ways that go unnoticed by the normal sheep of society but in ways that can be recognized. I think this is a knowledge pool that could help reduce those differences, and reduce the risk of being made without comprimising your weapons accessability. I know theres specific rules of dress that help to distract, (think of the bank robbers that wear band aids, or yellow rain coats...that are never caught, even when they are seen on video.) I think it would be awesome to be able to develope a style of dress that would prevent someone from even looking at your waist line, much less seeing the gun there. I know thats a bit extreme but... ok, done thinking...I've gotta go get some water. LOL
 

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kikr -- might be attitude and "bearing" - for lack of a better word - that has a lot to do with whether people notice you have a firearm. Sounds to me like you just know how to carry and then type of clothing helps a bit.
An interesting topic and one I'd like to know more about as well. On the other hand, sometimes it seems to me that sheep wouldn't notice if I were carrying two riot guns.
 

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SOLOLUCKY said:
..........don't wear'em skin tight .......not loose and droopy nor 'painted on' .........
Painted on is ONLY OK if you're between 18-24, female, cute as a button, and have a really hard body :banned:
 

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My experience - printing over rated

I am new to this forum, but I must state that printing is an issue to be considered, but realize that most people out there are not looking for a gun, and don't have the observation powers to see a gun printing, know what it was when it is printing, or consider that it is a gun. Only the educated in firearms can spot a print.

I try to keep from printing, but tropical style shirts? Not a chance! I will wear IWB, with a heavy white or off white cotton shirt, and I have never had a problem. My wife knows I carry, and she said when she is looking, she can see "something" poking through occasionally, but only breifly, and no way to tell what it is.
 

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she said when she is looking, she can see "something" poking through occasionally, but only briefly, and no way to tell what it is.
Sorry to be jocular with a new fella - but thought this maybe means this should be kept for ''at home'' only :wink: :18:
 

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My wife knows I carry, and she said when she is looking, she can see "something" poking through occasionally, but only breifly, and no way to tell what it is.

Sounds like you need a bigger gun, kindof like my fiance saying, is that your dingy? I told her I refer to it as a schooner:scratchchin: Sorry couldn't resist.:biggrin2:
 

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Loose clothing, the looser the better. Dark clothing is good and so are very busy prints/patterns in vivid and contrasting colors. Casual is therefore easy.

For more formal situations, pleated pants and coats/sport jackets help a lot.

IWB's maximize concealment with a sport coat/suit jacket and untucked shirts (be they tee shirts or Hawaiins). Belly/abdomen holsters (Smartcarry, Thunderwear, Belly Bands) maximize concealment all the time. Shoulder holsters are good with coats/jackets.
 
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