at the QT down the street and maybe, if you are lucky the next page will load by the time you get back. Hate to be a whiner and all, especially being new to the forum, but this site is painfully slow. It is not my machine, nor my connection. Every other Vbullitenbased forum I go to (about 6 others) load just fine and zip right along. Seems to be running a bit faster this morning, but last night was so bad I just stopped using the site.