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https://thesuitedshootist.home.blog/2019/11/03/dress-around-the-gun-needs-to-die/

"At the end of the day what’s more important than anything is that the carrier is aware of not only the realistic performance capabilities of the tools they’ve selected, but of themselves as well. Once you have a good grasp of those two factors, you can work a firearm into your lifestyle accordingly. It will require some adjustment, but it shouldn’t require you to completely reinvent yourself."

Spot on in my opinion.
 

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Interesting article, thanks for the link. :hand10:

The one point he tries to convey is meaningless, IMHO, “Dress around the gun” vs “dress for the gun”!
Most of the folks on this forum that I have read, who work in NPEs, choose the gun best suited for their dress. A good example in my opinion would be @10thmtn, he doesn't "dress for the dual LCPs" he carries them because that's what his dress/environment allows. Two LCPs wouldn't be his best choice for all situations in life (he's stated here before he carries a larger pistol when he can), but for him, they are the best choice for his NPE. Maybe I really am dense, but “Dress around the gun” vs “dress for the gun”! amounts to the same thing.
 

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Interesting article, thanks for the link. :hand10:

The one point he tries to convey is meaningless, IMHO, “Dress around the gun” vs “dress for the gun”!
Most of the folks on this forum that I have read, who work in NPEs, choose the gun best suited for their dress. A good example in my opinion would be @10thmtn, he doesn't "dress for the dual LCPs" he carries them because that's what his dress/environment allows. Two LCPs wouldn't be his best choice for all situations in life (he's stated here before he carries a larger pistol when he can), but for him, they are the best choice for his NPE. Maybe I really am dense, but “Dress around the gun” vs “dress for the gun”! amounts to the same thing.
I see your point. What I got out of it was some people are always sort of scolding those who don't carry full size "duty" or "fighting guns" because they consider them lazy for not just dressing around the platform. I own and carry a Pico when I cannot dress for something better but, I know full well its limitations and mine using such a tool.
I agree many of us carry as much as we can and go about our normal daily lives concealed.
 

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I agree with OD, the two phrases are a distinction without a difference. The fact is, most people don't, or can't, carry guns at all and most of the time they are fairly safe. If they have good SA, most of them are very safe.

Someone who carries any gun, in any fashion, especially if they have trained with it, and especially if they have any non-gun defensive capability to augment it, jumps them way up the scale in the ability to defend themselves. After that, it is just a matter of degrees of improvement. It is a reality for me, and I am sure for some other people, that the choice between a larger gun vs a smaller one is the choice between carrying or not. There are a few places I go that I have to deep conceal and I want that to be comfortable.

For a humorous look at this topic, here is Mat Best's take on it:

 

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I see your point. What I got out of it was some people are always sort of scolding those who don't carry full size "duty" or "fighting guns" because they consider them lazy for not just dressing around the platform. I own and carry a Pico when I cannot dress for something better but, I know full well its limitations and mine using such a tool.
I agree many of us carry as much as we can and go about our normal daily lives concealed.
You are certainly correct in that observation.
 

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I think I have a slightly different take on that. I pick the firearm that will work with my attire. Probably as @10thmtn does.

What I'm doing on any given day and what I'll need to wear, e.g. T-shirt vs Parka, will dictate to some extent which firearm I'll choose to carry. So I'm more a "carry for the clothing" kinda guy.

.....if we need little catch phrases to work with.......

And, yes, a cleaned up J-frame does go with black tie, thank you very much.
 

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There's not much in the way of dressing for or around the gun for OV. It's shorts and a T-shirt--possibly a polo or T. Magnum shirt on occasion--and whatever pistol he shoves under his belt. Overthinking things like that give him a headache and an excuse for a shot of bourbon.
 

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His perspective is interesting and has certain truths to it that we see played out here in discussion.

Also, not mentioned directly but alluded to in the article, is that as we evolve as we age and gain experience. Carry guns that were not desirable back in my younger years now show their strengths and vis versa.
 

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I am with @OldVet on this one. I just do not see the need for such analysis. I. have an EDC. I carry it IWB at 4 o'clock. I wear unticked shirts even in winter with a coat on. Concealability for my body type and size was a factor in gun selection. I carry every day. No one can tell. It is that simple for me.
 

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His perspective is interesting and has certain truths to it that we see played out here in discussion.

Also, not mentioned directly but alluded to in the article, is that as we evolve as we age and gain experience. Carry guns that were not desirable back in my younger years now show their strengths and vis versa.
Boy, is that the truth. My older self could make my younger self eat a healthy helping of crow.
 

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My last job included working in an office with a dress shirt and tie and also working often alone in very remote wilderness areas. I would drive a 4X4 vehicle as far as possible on jeep trails and then hike in to my destinations. In the office, I pocket carried a small .380.

In the field, I often carried a Glock G20 SF 10mm and two spare magazines on my right hip for potential encounters with survivalist squatters on government land or marijuana farmers. I often carried a 4" S&W 29-2 .44 magnum with two speed loaders on my left hip for potential black bear encounters. The .44 magnum was replaced by a 5" S&W 460 magnum in brown bear and moose territory. I also pocket carried the .380 just in case.

In the office, I carried a gun for my dress. In the field, I dressed around the guns. Now that I am retired, I always dress around the guns.
 

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Making a mountain out of a molehill..........or a guy with a blog looking for something, anything, to say on a slow day.
 

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Before EDC I always wore jeans and a tucked Tshirt.
Now, with full-size or snub at 3:30 EDC, it's Jean's or cargo pants. Tucked undershirt and untucked Tshirt.
I have no opinion on what, how, or where someone else carries.

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Interesting article, thanks for the link. :hand10:

Most of the folks on this forum that I have read, who work in NPEs, choose the gun best suited for their dress.
Help me out here, google brings back much info on "NPE" what are you meaning? Thanks
 

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My typical attire, untucked shirt or sweatshirt, cargo shorts or pants is conducive to comfort and concealment.
 

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I think the semantics he is delving into aren't really necessary.

I do see both sides of this.

1.) I work in a gun shop, we sell not only handguns, but holsters, belts, all of it... I can tell you the struggle is real when it comes to folks wanting to carry a mid-sized handgun but they are NOT wearing a belt. Pocket carry is out for a Glock 19, but how can I spread the load and sell you a good holster if you won't wear a belt. Forget a good gun belt like most of us might wear; i am talking ANY BELT. So, we do need to educate folks on WHAT to wear a bit.

2.) We still have folks in the gun industry that think if you carry ANYTHING less than a Glock 34 with a optic and a light, or a full size steel frame 45 you are too undergunned to even own one...

Hey, my daily at work is a 45 acp commander and 2 spare mags, but there are many a day I am walking the dog with a J frame and a speed strip in my pocket. Is it less than optimal? sure is, but it beats the 50 AE in the house/truck... nobody wants to get shot in the face with a 25acp, so while not ideal. They are far from useless (okay maybe not far).

We all need to realize that different people carry different rigs. If you are proficient and train with what you like. I think I like you.
 

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A thirty-some pound weight loss has opened many more fashion options for "dressing around the gun". Being able to carry enough gun for the job has seldom been an issue either way.
 

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