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These are some videos of some very skilled shooters hunting feral pigs. The shooting is awesome and so is the gun handling.

I'm pretty sure that in all these vids the rifle used is a Sauer 202 (bolt) or a Sauer 303 (semi). The calibers I heard mentioned are .270, .300 Win, 7mm mag., and some kind of thirty zero six - really - that's the way he said it, thirty zero six, JIC, that's a thirty aught six.

All the 'scopes' are Aimpoints. I use quotes because as 'scopes' they are RDSs with NO magnification, NO parallax at any range, and have infinite eye relief. Some are pretty expensive, although compared to a lot of the top of the line scopes, they are inexpensive.

As I recall, there are various models of Aimpoints used in the first two vids, so you can keep an eye on the various scope models.

Don't judge all the vids based on one or two - some are better than others - I think they're all great!

Here's the first of a two part vid:

Wild boar hunt 1/2 (Awesome kill Shots) - YouTube

and part 2/2:

Wild boar hunt 2/2 (MUST SEE!!) - YouTube

Then here's a 4 part series:

Part 1
Wild Boar Fever 1 - Hunters Video - YouTube

Part 2
Wild Boar Fever 2 - Hunters Video - YouTube

Part 3
Wild Boar Fever 3 - Hunters Video - YouTube

Perhaps the best one of the four:
Wild Boar Fever 4 - Hunters Video - YouTube

pigs hunting with sauer 202 - YouTube
 

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Those are pretty cool. But I still prefer a good sixgun and iron sights to add a little extra challenge to it.
 
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Those are pretty cool. But I still prefer a good sixgun and iron sights to add a little extra challenge to it.
LOL - yeah, there does need to be some challenge to it :tongue:

Actually, I'll have either a Kimber .45 or G21 gen 4 with me for the purpose of taking a hog.

Any thoughts on ammo for the .45 ACP? I'm thinking Critical Duty - not that I could find any these days. :sad:
 

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Thanks for the video links! Hogs are becoming a real problem down here, as I am sure Glockman10mm can attest to from his neck of the woods. Out of curiosity, have you seen any down toward Chattanooga?
 

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I sure as heck wouldn't use Critical Duty, or an HP on a hog. The way you take a hog with the handgun is to anchor it by busting the shoulder. Forget heart/ lung shots common on other game.

For that, I would load up with a hardcast bullet. With a 45ACP you are going to want to limit that shot at no more than 15 yards.

The goal is to immobilize them first, and then follow up if needed.

To be perfectly honest, I would only use a 45Colt loaded with 255-315 weight bullets as a minimum standard pressure load.
 

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I sure as heck wouldn't use Critical Duty, or an HP on a hog. The way you take a hog with the handgun is to anchor it by busting the shoulder. Forget heart/ lung shots common on other game.

For that, I would load up with a hardcast bullet. With a 45ACP you are going to want to limit that shot at no more than 15 yards.

The goal is to immobilize them first, and then follow up if needed.

To be perfectly honest, I would only use a 45Colt loaded with 255-315 weight bullets as a minimum standard pressure load.
Most of the fella's I know use either a 44 or 41 Magnum down here. Funny thing, you can still find both calibers on the shelves here. Lets you know most folks have forgotten about shootin' these great old rounds. How do you think 45 hardball will work on one of these porkers? Reason I ask is you mentioned the 45 ACP and I just found out a neighbor of my dad's shot 3 hogs not long ago. My dad said he is going to start carrying a pistol when he is on the tractor (he has a large Massey Ferguson with an enclosed cab and keeping a long gun in there may not be an option). I didn't know if you had used a 45 ACP to take one before.
 

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Thanks for the video links! Hogs are becoming a real problem down here, as I am sure Glockman10mm can attest to from his neck of the woods. Out of curiosity, have you seen any down toward Chattanooga?
I saw a video or news blurb of some kind that said feral pig infestation was affecting 3/4 of the US and growing.

It's kind of strange in Tennessee, I've been told that the Tennessee Wildlife Resources Agency (TWRA) has taken pigs off the big game list, meaning there is NO season for hog hunting in Tennessee and to hunt or kill a hog, one has to have a special permit, even on private property as I understand it.

It seems the reason they took this approach was because people were trapping and breeding the hogs to insure there would be hogs left to hunt, which was, of course, propagating the feral pig population and hence the 'infestation' - if there is one in TN.

I can't vouch for the accuracy of any of that, but that's how a 'hog' hunter, or used to be hog hunter, explained it.

I sure as heck wouldn't use Critical Duty, or an HP on a hog. The way you take a hog with the handgun is to anchor it by busting the shoulder. Forget heart/ lung shots common on other game.
Critical Duty is designed to penetrate barriers and expand on flesh, but I can see where it may not be effective on a hog's shoulder, and speaking of hog shoulders, funny you should mention that.

Every quick stop I've seen and I've seen a bunch (YouTube), the shot was a shoulder shot or spine shot, not the behind the shoulder heart/lung shot. Of course those were with rifles that destroy the shoulder, hydrostatic shock and tear the heart and lungs and probably pulse the brain, and destroy the other shoulder.
 

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I have never used a 45Acp on hogs, but it can be done. Ol slabsides is good for most anything within reason short of bison or other heavy boned muscled animals. Hardball could work, but it just wouldn't be my first choice.

It is my opinion, that in the absence of the 41 and 44 magnums, a 45Colt loaded to its regular load of a 255 grn bullet at 900 fps is just about the best non magnum medicine there is to be had. And if you want to, you can load the 45 Colt up to power levels that would make Dirty Harry run for cover.
 
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...How do you think 45 hardball will work on one of these porkers? Reason I ask is you mentioned the 45 ACP and I just found out a neighbor of my dad's shot 3 hogs not long ago. My dad said he is going to start carrying a pistol when he is on the tractor (he has a large Massey Ferguson with an enclosed cab and keeping a long gun in there may not be an option). I didn't know if you had used a 45 ACP to take one before.
Well, this doesn't speak to the ammo, but it is a G21 .45ACP - the good part starts at about the 1:00 mark:

 

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Tangle - Thanks for the video again! I liked that one alot. Funny I knew you could get an extended barrel for the 10mm but didn't know anyone made one for the 45 ACP.

Glockman10mm - I am trying to find something for him to utilize that is not punishing on recoil. Dad's a Korean War Era Vet in his mid-80's (and still working on his farm!). I was thinking of the G21 since it is not really bad as far as recoil impulse goes. My alternative was to try and rig up a 20 gauge for him that he could keep on the tractor and use buck shot. Thoughts?
 

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GhostMaker, I think a 22 magnum in the Henry rifle might just be the best option for him. It's got plenty of punch, and is easy to make head shots with.
 

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Tangle - Thanks for the video again! I liked that one alot. Funny I knew you could get an extended barrel for the 10mm but didn't know anyone made one for the 45 ACP.
That was a good look wasn't it!

Here's on source for an extended barrel. I presume the longer barrel is to squeeze a little more velocity and energy out of the round.

Lone Wolf Distributors - Product Detail - LWD Barrel M/21L 45 ACP 6" Length - $124.95

Of course, nobody has one in stock - as so typical these days :mad:

...Glockman10mm - I am trying to find something for him to utilize that is not punishing on recoil. Dad's a Korean War Era Vet in his mid-80's (and still working on his farm!). I was thinking of the G21 since it is not really bad as far as recoil impulse goes. My alternative was to try and rig up a 20 gauge for him that he could keep on the tractor and use buck shot. Thoughts?
There's a huge difference in trying to tote around a shotgun and a handgun. The G21 is pretty soft shooting for a .45 ACP; it shouldn't be, but it is.
 

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Tangle - Thanks for the link. If and when LWD gets one in I might have to get one to tinker with.

Glockman10mm & Tangle - With his advanced age I might look at a 22 Maggie for him. Most of the time when I instruct folks I can find a workable solution to shooting concerns. However, most folks I deal with are decades younger. The biggest issue I have to work around for him is his grip strength, as he has had Carpal Tunnel surgery and he still feels its affects. The 22Mag may be the ticket as he will not me dismounted from the tractor for 99% of the time. Thanks to you both!!
 

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9mm through 150 pound hog. Shot through the right shoulder (on purpose to test the ammo) and stopped in the left shoulder.

I have some Barnes TSX Balck Tip on the way for my 9" 300 Blackout. My preferred hog rifle is my 14.5" 5.56 with a bonded soft point or TSX, but to get a bit more energy and a heavier bullet from a barrel almost 6" shorter for use from the truck, I'm all for it.

 

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The reason so many people lose hogs is they don't understand the anatomy. Cntray to popular belief, they don't have an armor plate otherwise we'd be cutting them out and wearing them in our plate carrier! The problem is when we take the same shot we would on deer, we miss the majority of the vitals.

Below the shoulder by the elbow is a v shape area with access to the body. This is the ideal shot from a very alight rearward angle (hog facing ever so slightly away). This will get through the lungs and drop them pretty quick. Miss the vitals and they run off. The problem is they're bristly dark hair is usually caked with dirt so we don't see this area very well.

I prefer to put a bullet behind the ear, but from a moving truck on running hogs, it's not always that easy. A good shoulder shot can take them down but hogs can push through what a lot of other animals couldn't.

We can use a 300 wsm, but a miss is a miss.

Head shot from about 20 yards with Black Hills 50gr TSX. This is the entry wound. The exit opened a flap of skull on the other side. For the record, this guy went down with a few of his friends. He was running at full speed and I took him on the first shot from a truck bouncing through a field at about 15 mph. Good stuff.

 
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I've killed a hog last year with my Ruger Speed Six at about 18 yards with a shoulder hit. I used a 180 gr HC Buffalo Bore, that I bought for backpacking in Black Bear country.

Nice videos, and that was some good shooting at fast moving targets. (I only watched the first two vids)
 

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9mm through 150 pound hog. Shot through the right shoulder (on purpose to test the ammo) and stopped in the left shoulder.
What brand and what are the specs of the 9mm bullet you used? Thanks!
 

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...Head shot from about 20 yards with Black Hills 50gr TSX. This is the entry wound. The exit opened a flap of skull on the other side. For the record, this guy went down with a few of his friends. He was running at full speed and I took him on the first shot from a truck bouncing through a field at about 15 mph. Good stuff.
You didn't state this, but I presume the 50 gr TSX is a 5.56 cal???
 
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