[heatherr855]

some may,or may not,be aware,there is a Senator,Lee Bright(R), from upstate,that has proposed a bill,that would eliminate CC permits,and have OC in S.C..Just wondering how do people feel about this?You may want to email Senator Bright,if you want this.Thanks.Take care all.Have a nice day...Wanted to add the bill can be found on the "Bill Tracking-Palmetto Gun Rights".

 

[gregnsc]

I saw that in the news this morning.Open carry a nice option to have.I'm not sure i would,because i dont want to draw attention to myself.So far as permit,i would still like to be able to get one,or have the option ,because of traveling to other states.

 

[heatherr855]

Yea,i'm not sure i would open carry,but,i want the option of the ccw because of traveling to other states.

 

[phreddy]

I believe this is the "Constitutional Carry" bill. It would get rid of any permit requirement to carry open or concealed. the permit system would remain for people who wanted it for reciprocity puproses.

 

[SCXDm9]

Sounds pretty good if you think everyone is like us.... but they are not!!!!!! This would mean every thug you meet on the street can legally carry a gun. I have no problem with the current permit system and can see where it would be nice if the permit allowed for either open or concealed carry.

 

[WHEC724]

I'm not an OC fan either, but I'm for any legislation that restores our basic rights.

You can track the SC stuff here: Bill Tracking - Palmetto Gun Rights

 

[phreddy]

Thugs are going to carry law or no law.

 

[WHEC724]

Sounds pretty good if you think everyone is like us.... but they are not!!!!!! This would mean every thug you meet on the street can legally carry a gun. I have no problem with the current permit system and can see where it would be nice if the permit allowed for either open or concealed carry.

No. No it doesn't. It would still be illegal for felons to carry.

 

[phreddy]

I'm not an OC fan either, but I'm for any legislation that restores our basic rights.

You can track the SC stuff here: Bill Tracking - Palmetto Gun Rights

Palmetto Rights is being kind of slow on updating. Last time I checked, there were 25 bills in the house and senate that dealt with weapons.

 

[WHEC724]

Palmetto Rights is being kind of slow on updating. Last time I checked, there were 25 bills in the house and senate that dealt with weapons.

Is there a better link for tracking this stuff?

 

[phreddy]

Is there a better link for tracking this stuff?

The only place better is going to the SC Legislature's page and look up current legilsation by subject.

South Carolina Legislature Mobile

Denise Snelling is pretty good about responding to emails, but the website hasn't been updated since the begninging of January as far as I can tell.

 

[gregnsc]

I first read about this on the, Bill Tracking-Palmetto Gun Rights.It goes into more detail if anyone is interested.

 

[Exacto]

It seems like a step in the wrong direction. Here in VA, open carry is legal. No back ground check required., but a concealed handgun permit requires a background check and training. Why would they want to eliminate a permiting process that at least has the applicant pass a police back ground check and some firearms training. This could be hurtful and fuel for the antis.

 

[phreddy]

It seems like a step in the wrong direction. Here in VA, open carry is legal. No back ground check required., but a concealed handgun permit requires a background check and training. Why would they want to eliminate a permiting process that at least has the applicant pass a police back ground check and some firearms training. This could be hurtful and fuel for the antis.

That is the whole point. It is Constitutional Carry. No permit needed. Arizona has this as well as Vermont and a few other states.

The timing might be a little ambitious for what the populace is prepared for, but this should be the end goal for all of us.

 

[WHEC724]

It seems like a step in the wrong direction. Here in VA, open carry is legal. No back ground check required., but a concealed handgun permit requires a background check and training. Why would they want to eliminate a permiting process that at least has the applicant pass a police back ground check and some firearms training. This could be hurtful and fuel for the antis.

I appreciate your sentiment. The problem is that you're turning over an inherent right to be regulated as a privilege that is determined by some other authority. What if they determine a criteria in their background check where they decide that YOU shouldn't be allowed to carry? It provides a hook for an anti to extend their control over the population. I've already slid down this slippery slope with other government agencies in other areas of regulation and have learned painful lessons there.

And frankly, I don't care what the anti's think. They will not give up until we are all disarmed.

 

[SCXDm9]

No. No it doesn't. It would still be illegal for felons to carry.

YES, YES it does! You said felons, not me.

Obviously felons can and do carry ILLEGALLY. Can you imagine the police frisking a thug, finding a gun and sending him on his way? I do not think very many pre-felons go through the permit process.

I have 30 employees and I'm going to guess 28 of them have NEVER touched a gun. I do not like the thought of them being able to plop down $250 and strap on a gun with no test, no class...nothing. Most of the people in todays world are not like us, they have not spent a life time with hand guns. Consider all the people you come across in a week, think about how you would feel if they were all carring.

 

[WHEC724]

YES, YES it does! You said felons, not me.

Obviously felons can and do carry ILLEGALLY. Can you imagine the police frisking a thug, finding a gun and sending him on his way? I do not think very many pre-felons go through the permit process.

I have 30 employees and I'm going to guess 28 of them have NEVER touched a gun. I do not like the thought of them being able to plop down $250 and strap on a gun with no test, no class...nothing. Most of the people in todays world are not like us, they have not spent a life time with hand guns. Consider all the people you come across in a week, think about how you would feel if they were all carring.

It's a tough call. I do agree that there are many people out there who have no business touching a firearm. I don't have a problem with training being required, but how do you determine who is a thug, until they become a felon? By the clothes that they wear? If the police frisk what appears to be a thug, and they are not a felon, then they should be sent on their way. People really are innocent until proven guilty.

...Unless you massacre dozens in front of hundreds of witnesses, but that's a rant for another occasion.

 

[Stevew]

YES, YES it does! You said felons, not me.

Obviously felons can and do carry ILLEGALLY. Can you imagine the police frisking a thug, finding a gun and sending him on his way? I do not think very many pre-felons go through the permit process.

I have 30 employees and I'm going to guess 28 of them have NEVER touched a gun. I do not like the thought of them being able to plop down $250 and strap on a gun with no test, no class...nothing. Most of the people in todays world are not like us, they have not spent a life time with hand guns. Consider all the people you come across in a week, think about how you would feel if they were all carring.

What differnce does it make if someone thinks another person should not carry a gun. If they meet the legal requirments they should be allowed. We are not gun gods. Nothing makes us anymore qualified to carry than the next guy. I am certian that there are some folks that don't think you should be allowed to have and carry a firearm. My or your opinion should not come into bare on whom is allowed to carry firearms. That's a god given right back up by our forefathers wisdom.

 

[oakchas]

YES, YES it does! You said felons, not me.

Obviously felons can and do carry ILLEGALLY. Can you imagine the police frisking a thug, finding a gun and sending him on his way? I do not think very many pre-felons go through the permit process.

I have 30 employees and I'm going to guess 28 of them have NEVER touched a gun. I do not like the thought of them being able to plop down $250 and strap on a gun with no test, no class...nothing. Most of the people in todays world are not like us, they have not spent a life time with hand guns. Consider all the people you come across in a week, think about how you would feel if they were all carring.

I would feel proud that all the people (law abiding people) I came across have chosen to exercise their right. They have chosen to be citizens rather than subjects. Good for them.

I also applaud those who frequently speak their mind in letters to the editor, on soap boxes in town squares, and otherwise exercise their freedom of speech. I think it's great that some people go to church, some to mosques, some to temple... I think it's just fine. I'm glad the Irish parade down the avenues on St. Patty's day... And I think it's great that the Gays march in their parade, too. And, I even respect the westboro baptist church's right to protest at funerals... I HATE it, but I respect it.... and, frankly I like it even more when the bikers create a cordon that the WBC members can't cross.

I don't have to agree with what they are standing for. But they have a right to do it.

Your own state is a "shall issue state"... lucky fella... Until last year, Iowa was not... The Sheriff of your county might determine that he didn't want you to have a permit because you parted your hair on the wrong side. While the Sheriff of my county might issue to all comers who passed a NICS check.

Now, you seem to apply that same lack of reasoning to constitutional carry.... it's okay for me... I'm special... But you? I don't know about you... You seem a little off...

Sorry.... A right is a right is a right. Infringements are not supposed to be allowed, even though they are.... but let's not make the infringements subjective... they have to apply to all...

 

[RoadKill]

TN law requires a permit to carry a weapon but doesn't specify how you carry it. OC or CC is the person's choice but at leaast you have to have some minimum training and a background check to get the permit. Called a Handgun Carry Permit.