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What brought me to the board in the first place was looking for "the best" gun cleaner to eliminate carbon without it taking forever, and one of the threads on this site about this came up in a google search. I read Fr. Frogs test page, and I had no reason to doubt his axiom about gun cleaners and lubes, but I would feel very selfish if I kept this to myself, and I would like to see it in stores rather than having to order it.

Dad raised me right. After putting them downrange your first stop is the bench to disassemble, clean, lube, and reassemble.

I've done allot of internet searching, talked to many guys in many gun shops, and tried just about everything out there. Fr. Frog seemed to be right about everything.

Then I tried this: Q20. WD40 knock off? Who knows? Who cares?

I hadn't heard of this stuff, and no one I have talked to had mentioned it. No one on line, and no one in the gun shops. The whole gun community seems to be oblivious (correct me if I'm wrong) to it (except for the US Shooting Team), which I just found endorses it after googling it and going to this website: Q20 Super Multi-Purpose Lubricant - Displaces Moisture, Stops Rust, Protects and Lubricates A guy shooting an AR at the public range had a 2 oz bottle of Q20 in his range bag and I asked about it. He gushed, and told me where I could get it locally here: http://www.qmaxxfulfillment.com (a local distributor). I have no idea if there are distributers in other states, but they may be able to put it through the mail (maybe not).

I looked for it online and the main page came up immediately.

Ok, so it's a superior lubricant. I wasn't really looking for that, but great. I don't usually submerge my guns in water (saltwater), or take them on a cruise, but whatever, I'm glad it's good...

The Black Diamond stuff, with the cleaner in it, IS a "magic cleaner", period. I don't know that whatever is in it is anything different, but paired with the lubricant somehow it works better than I would have thought possible. I sprayed it on, wiped it off, and ALL the carbon came off in one wipe. No scrubbing, no brass brush, no muss, no fuss. I didn't submerge the parts or give it any time to penetrate or work itself into the carbon. What was left was pure steel with a thin layer of lube on it. On the first pistol I cleaned it twice for no reason at all but habit, and I still couldn't believe it was clean that fast and to my standards. Now, I'm sure that if the guns weren't clean before I took them to the range, or had been rusting in a case in the bottom of a closet for years it would not have worked as well, and there would still be scrubbing, but if you take care of your equipment in the first place, and shoot and clean allot, like I do, you need to try this stuff.

Seriously, get a small bottle of it for $10 and try it out. You will be amazed. I would bet you that it will be in every gun shop in a few years (probably at double the price).

I'm NOT a salesman for it or affiliated with it in any way, so keep scrubbing if that's your lot in life. I've just tried about everything claiming to be great, and this stuff actually is. I thought you should know...
 

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I use Eezox dry lube and cleaner/protector. I've used it for years and it does all the above says, AND it dries, well .... DRY! No oily surface to attract debris and powder residue. It cleans like nobody's business and also is one the best (tested thoroughly) metal protectors you can find.

It's cheap (about $6 a 4 oz can) which lasted a couple of years (!!!) because you use so little. It dries in about an hour and will coat your metal surfaces so they slide and don't get dirty as easily.
 

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If this Q20 is basically WD40 don't not use it. WD40 is not suitable for firearm useage. With the description you showed about it displacing water, I would be willing to bet it is. I personally still use either Breakfree or Rem-Oil, but of course the choice is yours.
 
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Both ordered. I've never used treatments that "dry", but rather have avoided oil in harsh environments previously. If they dissolve carbon like this stuff does I'll be a believer.

Yet, for my purposes having oil on most of my firearms isn't a problem. I will try these drying chemicals on my ARs. I may also try them on my duck guns, because they do get pretty trashed during the season, and these may be good for that as well. I'll let you know what I think.

Thank you both for the tips!
 

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Froglube..... I oiled my glock with it, wiped it clean, then ran 200 rnds through it. It literally wiped clean, no cleaner required. A good friend has been using it on his AR, and after firing he just wipes the firing pin clean. It literally keeps the carbon from sticking to the metal. He said it makes cleaning the gas tube 10 times easier as well. I found it makes cleaning my barrels significantly easier as well, with minimal fouling and it comes right out. Also, it smells really good !
 

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I agree about WD40, but I was referring more to the name being somewhat similar, not the product. WD40 is just a light oil anyway. Carbon wouldn't notice it, and this stuff dissolves it like nothing I've seen. If these other products can do something similar I will be on it.
 

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Me neither Thunder. I just likes 'em clean!

I used to hunt with an old Gunnery Sargent in Bridgeport Ohio on leave. He had a .220 Swift with a Nikon Scope on it the size of a telescope. He flatly refused to clean the thing, and claimed that if he cleaned it wouldn't shoot straight. I didn't argue with him. That thing was a laser!
 

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Me neither Thunder. I just likes 'em clean!

I used to hunt with an old Gunnery Sargent in Bridgeport Ohio on leave. He had a .220 Swift with a Nikon Scope on it the size of a telescope. He flatly refused to clean the thing, and claimed that if he cleaned it wouldn't shoot straight. I didn't argue with him. That thing was a laser!
Haha, it's hard to argue with the truth!
 

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Froglube..... I oiled my glock with it, wiped it clean, then ran 200 rnds through it. It literally wiped clean, no cleaner required.
Do you find FrogLube "weeps" from the surface of the treated metal when it gets hot? I tried it and it IS a good lube. Slick as anything you can think of. But you had to wipe it on, let it dry, wipe it off and then it kinda "wept" after the weapon (especially the barrel) got hot. I gave mine away.

Eezox goes on in a thin liquid, dries and you wipe it off. Thinner the better. It's like clear Teflon plus it protects metal surfaces and is used as cleaner, too. It's all I use except Ballistol at times just 'cause I can....:danceban:
 

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I have a friend who swears by FrogLube. I may get around to it someday, but I'm old and cheap. I use CLP from my Army issue weapons cleaning kit. Seems to work fine for me.
 

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I prefer Ballistol. It does everything and then some. Never tried Froglube but I'm considering it.
 

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I'm boring. My old guns get old cleaner, Hoppe's No. 9.
 

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I switched to Gunzilla CLP a while back after hearing about it on here. Smells nice, cleans well, and my guns still continue to run just fine.
 

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I am a firm believer in Science. So I do believe that these very intelligent and dedicated people sitting in some laboratory all day and night playing around with all of this new stuff really can make advancements in water displacement, friction reduction, molecular bonding, etc.

So...folks should be always willing to at least give a new product a try.
 
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