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It's been discussed much. The issue of leaving your gun in the car when you go to a Federal Building. I have found a semi safe way that I am comfortable with doing.

This four combo safe is bolted to bottom of my console and unless someone brings a large crow bar and is willing to take time to tear this thing out, the gun is relatively safe. It is not made but for a few makes and models. Mine is in a Lincoln MKX Suv.

 

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I have a safe bolted in my trunk. I asked my local LEO's about this...they said why bother the idiots are going to take the whole car anyway.
 

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You could take the slide off and take that with you. It's not considered a firearm. Or if there are metal detectors might be better to divide it up between two safes.
 

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You would think that your vehicle would be safe when you park it at the country courthouse, but not around here. Twice now people have left the court after hearings about stealing cars and then stole a car from the parking lot outside the courthouse.
 

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You would think that your vehicle would be safe when you park it at the country courthouse, but not around here. Twice now people have left the court after hearings about stealing cars and then stole a car from the parking lot outside the courthouse.
Irony at its finest!
 

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You would think that your vehicle would be safe when you park it at the country courthouse, but not around here. Twice now people have left the court after hearings about stealing cars and then stole a car from the parking lot outside the courthouse.
That's the ultimate disrespect for our judicial system and LEO but then again most of these thugs have no respect for anything.
 
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That's the ultimate disrespect for our judicial system and LEO but then again most of these thugs have no respect for anything.
+1 there in lies the lesson. Fake leaders can only disarm the law abiding as they lack the moral courage to disarm the evil among us.
 

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You could take the slide off and take that with you. It's not considered a firearm. Or if there are metal detectors might be better to divide it up between two safes.
It's still considered a firearm part and probably would not be allowed in the building. Not sure about that but I think that's the case. Metal detectors would pick it up and they would probably confiscate it. Dividing it up between 2 safes could be good if you want 2 safes in your vehicle. I think the OP's safe is fine. It makes it much more difficult to get to the gun if they decide they want to clean the vehicle out instead of steal it. I don't agree with LE's that say it's useless because the car will be stolen anyway. Not always the case.
 

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Dividing it up between 2 safes could be good if you want 2 safes in your vehicle. I think the OP's safe is fine. It makes it much more difficult to get to the gun if they decide they want to clean the vehicle out instead of steal it.
If I were that worried about it being stolen...I would leave the damned thing at home.

A little common sense perspective about the real percentage of cars broken into and guns stolen, would make a lot more sense. Rather than this knee jerk..."If you leave it in the car, it is sure to get stolen" nonsense.
 

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You would think that your vehicle would be safe when you park it at the country courthouse, but not around here. Twice now people have left the court after hearings about stealing cars and then stole a car from the parking lot outside the courthouse.
You know where the most likely place to get carjacked is? The gas station right next to large urban county jails. No kidding, the gas station next to the orange county jail has a carjacking like 3 times a month. They just call the jail and ask who has been released in the past 2-3 hours. The case solves itself in like 5 minutes.
 

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A gun left in a car is unsecured, no matter what type of lock you have. Once some car thief steals your car, then he has all day to break into whatever type of security device your gun is in. I couldn't sleep at night knowing that some perp has my gun because I left it in my car. That's just my 2 Cents.---Sturgis
 
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I have a safe bolted in my trunk. I asked my local LEO's about this...they said why bother the idiots are going to take the whole car anyway.
Years ago I was showing my teenage son how they added all of these safeguards to keep people from counterfeiting the new money that was coming out. He asked "wouldn't they just counterfeit the old bills then?" Somebody always has the logical mind.
 

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You know where the most likely place to get carjacked is? The gas station right next to large urban county jails. No kidding, the gas station next to the orange county jail has a carjacking like 3 times a month. They just call the jail and ask who has been released in the past 2-3 hours. The case solves itself in like 5 minutes.
I live about a mile from the 500 bed local jail. Several times a year an inmate walks away from a work detail and the first thing they do is break into a house to find a change of clothes and a set of car keys.
 
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A gun left in a car is unsecured, no matter what type of lock you have. Once some car thief steals your car, then he has all day to break into whatever type of security device your gun is in. I couldn't sleep at night knowing that some perp has my gun because I left it in my car. That's just my 2 Cents.---Sturgis
So if you worked in a location. for example, where you could not bring your gun, you would be ok with leaving your home unarmed, and going about your day all day being unarmed? Just on the chance that your vehicle might be stolen?

I'm sorry, I'm not. I have a safe bolted in my truck, not just a cable- locked box, and feel I have made an effort to secure things as best I can. If some thief steals my truck, so be it. I will not have my life dictated by what-if's. Same logic for my home- if someone breaks into my home and steals my safe, so be it. I've done what I can to prevent that.
 

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The way it works around Chicago is that the bad guy isn't really breaking into your car to see what you have in it. That is only true if you leave something of value on the seat in plain sight. Rather they are there to steal the entire car. As such, they will get around to breaking into your car/gun safe later. Frankly, when I have to go to a Sitting Duck Zone, I put the gun out of visible sight in glove box or counsel.
 

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A gun left in a car is unsecured, no matter what type of lock you have. Once some car thief steals your car, then he has all day to break into whatever type of security device your gun is in. I couldn't sleep at night knowing that some perp has my gun because I left it in my car. That's just my 2 Cents.---Sturgis
Interesting logic. Would you be able to sleep a night knowing that same perp smashed your car into one containing a family of six, killing them all, after stealing it? Would you be able to sleep at night knowing some perp broke into your house, got into your gun safe, and stole firearms? Where do you draw the line between responsibility and irresponsibility?

Perhaps I'm callous and lack empathy, but I feel if someone has to pick at least one lock or break at least one window to steal something of mine, and especially something that has not been left lying in plain sight, then whatever they do with the stolen goods is on them, not me. Would I hate to have a gun stolen from my locked vehicle? Sure, but no more and no less than I'd hate to have an equally expensive camera stolen the same way. If anyone, other than the perp himself, is responsible for a gun being stolen, it's the government agency that decided to force law abiding citizens to choose between leaving their gun in their car, leaving it at home, or violating the law themselves and keeping it on their person.
 

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I carry a ziplock bag in my car so that I can remove the slide or the barrel from mine and carry it in my pocket. The rest of the gun stays out of sight in the car along with the ammo. If a metal detector shows that I have part of a gun on me then that is just what it is- just parts of a machine.
 

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So if you worked in a location. for example, where you could not bring your gun, you would be ok with leaving your home unarmed, and going about your day all day being unarmed? Just on the chance that your vehicle might be stolen?

I'm sorry, I'm not. I have a safe bolted in my truck, not just a cable- locked box, and feel I have made an effort to secure things as best I can. If some thief steals my truck, so be it. I will not have my life dictated by what-if's. Same logic for my home- if someone breaks into my home and steals my safe, so be it. I've done what I can to prevent that.
I'm a retired LEO and I never leave my house w/o my firearm and I carry it every where and I'm guilty of carrying in places that post gun free zone signs, so I wouldn't think to leave my gun in my car. I'll deal with the consequences, but I would rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6. Here in NYC, cars are stolen and broken into each day in crazy numbers, so leaving your gun in your car, even with a lock, still has a very good chance of it getting into the wrong hands. Maybe your town is much safer? Hopefully it is? As far as the guns in my home: My gun safe is built into my house, not just bolted to the floor, so it would take a demolition crew to get it out and with my alarms and nosy neighbors, I really don't see that happening anytime soon.---Sturgis
 
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