In my opinion you have missed the point of the article.The Tourist said:I've seen this debated for over 20 years.
The truth of the matter is that if you're wandering around in condition white, I can pick you out of a crowd from a block away and jump you.
If you have the unfortunate luck of trying to attack my friends (particularly those with an IPSC background) who are aware of changing circumstances and watch people and events closely, well then, you'll be shot as you make the first step of your attack.
I've come to the decision, which is old I realize, that it ain't the hardware, it's the man. When you are close enough to see him, he can see you. Make sure any ambush has an escape route. Don't buy your advice on defense from an ad in a gun magazine, and practice, practice, practice.
Trust me, broken bones are a pain in the whazoo.
rocky said:From LEO training I was taught and showed . You can draw and fire on someone only outside the 21 ft. zone. This is from a duty holster, ready for the attack and the attacker is running at ya. How many attacks are gonna start 21 ft. away and/ or get your attention. Most knife and other attacks are gonna start MUCH closer. Better to learn to shoot , draw , fight from the ground and to block or react as you draw. I.E. get out of the way or use cover first. Don't believe it? Get a fake knife and unload yer gun. BE SURE ITS UNLOADED. Get a friend to charge ya from 21 ft. and see what happens.
Cool, I stand corrected! Now that what these forums are about!FLM said:Please note the following discussion of pelvic shots by Dr. Fackler in--Fackler ML: "Shots to the Pelvic Area ". Wound Ballistics Review. 4(1):13; 1999.
“I welcome the chance to refute the belief that the pelvic area is a reasonable target during a gunfight. I can find no evidence or valid rationale for intentionally targeting the pelvic area in a gunfight. The reasons against, however, are many.
The Tourist said:Your appraisal of a threat should start at more than 21 feet. If a guy is hinkie in a parking lot over 100 yards away you should THEN begin your safety actions and move from yellow to orange. This is precisely because people with guns DO get cut even after a round/rounds are fired.
I train Mozambique. With practice, practice, practice he should be easy to side-step. He'll be dead.
Use your brain. Watch your surroundings before 21 feet ever comes up. 'Avoidance' is part of self defense, as well.
I agree. You cannot be alert and ready for everything , all the time. Hell an attack can come from behind, or while some other distraction has your attention.APachon said:I am sorry you think this will be easy. I hope you never get caught in just such a situation. I hope you have the ability to pick up a threat from a ways off. But you have to be right 100% of the time, the BG needs to be right only once. I have seen diversionary tactics where skilled law enforcement officers where totally caught off guard. On that note, even law enforcement who do not have to draw from concealment still get beat to the punch.
I was just trying to pass on some info.