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OK, I've been wanting to ask this question for some time, but haven't had the chance.. This is my situation. I have a concealed weapons permit. I would wear it at work if I could. I have before for an entire day more than a few times. The thing is I deliver/merchandise bread, and contrary to logical belief my job isn't easy... I get up at 1:50am 5 days a week and the job is a race against the clock to get to all 12 stops a day and all stores receive product by certain times. All stores stop receiving at noon PERIOD...

I'm bending over countless countless times over and over I'll even jog sometimes to get from my truck to the back door sometimes and even to the bread aisle if there isn't anyone in the store yet. Lately I've been keeping my handgun in a gun case/sleeve and leaving it in the work truck when I deliver. I'm only away from my truck about 15-30minutes at a time at any given time, and there are usually other bread guys parked around or right next to mine. I lock all my doors and even the backdoor of my work truck, and sometimes I'll put the gun sleeve in the back of the truck where the bread is in case someone does break in they wont be too apt to want to steal the bread I hide it under some empty trays sometimes as well.

My question is what do you think I should do? Is what I'm doing stupid? Should I leave my gun at home even though I have a small 4 gun sized safe that I can't bolt down because I live in an apartment? Any suggestions would be appreciated! Also might I add, I live in the south its hot even now!! its about 75 degrees right now in december where I live, and I'm a big guy I sweat a lot as is. My biggest fear would be a store manager asking me to show me what the buldge is, and trust me I wouldn't put it past some of them to do this especially at a much more corporate store that much of us like to go to when we first get our permits. I have to bend over funny a lot when and if I do carry to help prevent printing
 

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I vote for a shoulder rig also. The holster shirts are good, but constant bending may cause the firearm to come loose and fall out unless it has a retention strap.
 

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Well the bending over usually isn't conductive to belt carry. Shoulder rigs also tend to "dangle" when you bend over in my experience. You could try a smaller gun with ankle carry, a holster shirt, or <Lord, please forgive me for saying this...> thunderwear/smartcarry. I wouldn't want to leave it in the truck...for one, it doesn't do you much good there while you're spending a half hour running around.
 

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If I have ever heard of a situation demanding a small pocket j-frame, this is it. Pocket carry or possibly ankle holster. You don't have a lot of options otherwise.

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I would say ankle carry too, but how much walking do you actually do?? That may be a pain unless the gun is very light and small. Not a whole lot of options like said before.
 

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SmartCarry with the right gun... I used to drive a soda truck years ago, so I know the gig. You didn't say what you carry, but the "right" gun would be smaller in size with no hammer or pointy beavertail to poke you in the gut when you bend and enter/exit your truck, so something like a 1911 or my Sig 220 is out. You need a "smooth backside"... something like my Taurus 745 would work, but might be a tad heavy to be running around with all day...

Perhaps a smaller size 9mm Glock or XD, or a hammerless revolver...
 

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what kind of gun is it???
 

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If I have ever heard of a situation demanding a small pocket j-frame, this is it. Pocket carry or possibly ankle holster. You don't have a lot of options otherwise.

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I carry an LCP in a pocket holster. I'm pretty sure it wouldn't get in the way of just about anything. A bit low on firepower, but I don't have to go anywhere without it.
 

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I carry an LCP in a pocket holster. I'm pretty sure it wouldn't get in the way of just about anything. A bit low on firepower, but I don't have to go anywhere without it.
+1 :hand10: I was just about to say something very similar. My LCP is always in the front strong side pocket.... Agreed on the minimal side power wise, but not when using FMJ rounds, plenty of penetration there. I have recently followed some good advise and started using the dutch loading for my .380. I'm very confident that a .380 to forehead and it's over for dirtbag. FWIW

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Kidden, What are Dutch rounds? Never heard of the phrase.
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i don't sell bread but i'm in the type of buisness where i'm going in and out of stores all day. i'm bending over all day but not near as much as you are. i use a G19 in a supertuck and also worry about a manager asking about that bump on my side. i have thought of several things to reply with but the latest one is that it is a hidden tape recorder to record any conversation that i think could be going in the wrong direction so i will have proof of what was said. so far no one has asked about it so i haven't had to give a reason yet. i don't think an ankle holster will work either if you wear shorts to work most days like most of the bread guys do around here.

you do need to find something that will work for you because i feel that carrying in our type of buisness is a need not just a want. your best bet may be a small 9mm or 380 in a pocket carry.
 

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Kidden, What are Dutch rounds? Never heard of the phrase.
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It's a loading of JHP and FMJ rounds in the magazine. I start off with a hollow point round and follow it with a full metal jacketed round and so on. Some question the penetration of the .380 JHP, but with a FMJ round, that's a non issue.

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OK, I've been wanting to ask this question for some time, but haven't had the chance.. This is my situation. I have a concealed weapons permit. I would wear it at work if I could. I have before for an entire day more than a few times. The thing is I deliver/merchandise bread, and contrary to logical belief my job isn't easy... I get up at 1:50am 5 days a week and the job is a race against the clock to get to all 12 stops a day and all stores receive product by certain times. All stores stop receiving at noon PERIOD...

I'm bending over countless countless times over and over I'll even jog sometimes to get from my truck to the back door sometimes and even to the bread aisle if there isn't anyone in the store yet. Lately I've been keeping my handgun in a gun case/sleeve and leaving it in the work truck when I deliver. I'm only away from my truck about 15-30minutes at a time at any given time, and there are usually other bread guys parked around or right next to mine. I lock all my doors and even the backdoor of my work truck, and sometimes I'll put the gun sleeve in the back of the truck where the bread is in case someone does break in they wont be too apt to want to steal the bread I hide it under some empty trays sometimes as well.

My question is what do you think I should do? Is what I'm doing stupid? Should I leave my gun at home even though I have a small 4 gun sized safe that I can't bolt down because I live in an apartment? Any suggestions would be appreciated! Also might I add, I live in the south its hot even now!! its about 75 degrees right now in December where I live, and I'm a big guy I sweat a lot as is. My biggest fear would be a store manager asking me to show me what the buldge is, and trust me I wouldn't put it past some of them to do this especially at a much more corporate store that much of us like to go to when we first get our permits. I have to bend over funny a lot when and if I do carry to help prevent printing
Unless you are self employed or an independent contractor, the first thing to do would be to find out what your company policy is regarding carry. I would also add that there is a very high probability that some stores you deliver to either have signs posted or have a policy against carry inside the store.

Even if customer can carry in the store, you are in effect acting as an agent for the stores you deliver to by agreement with the company you work for.

The Castle Doctrine is not extended to a company truck since it is not your personal property and cannot be considered as an extension of your domain.

It would be my strong opinion that you are taking a good amount of risk, even if the gun is left in the truck. The major risk being your job.

Unlike armed guards, you are not issued to carry by your company.
 

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If it's hot and humid I would also opt for a j-frame in a pocket carry. The best I've found so far is a bendable wire reinforced model by Milt Sparts (PCH-R). The wire border allows you to shape the holster for different size pockets in various pants, thereby providing a more form fit with light twills to heavy jeans. BTW: Nothing is perfect for any kind of carry, when its 112+. I'm from Louisiana and I currently live in the hottest region of Arizona, so I know a little bit about the whole hot carry thing'.

More to say... I tried the appendix carry (Thunderwear) but when the mercury reaches into the teens, it turned into a walking sauna!
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As much as I don't like anything smaller than a 9mm, There are times when the phrase, "any gun will do if you will do" is applicable. It is better to carry a pea shooter .22 than nothing at all. Not that I'm advocating carrying a .22, but I think an LCP or P3AT in pocket carry would be a good idea. Or put the .380 in a supertuck.

I wear a supertuck all day, every day. I spray pest control, so I'm in and out of homes and businesses all day with no one the wiser. I carry a Springfield XD subcompact.

For your situation, the XD subcompact would print too much. But I think one of the small .380s mentioned above would conceal VERY nicely.

IF anyone asks about your bulge, it is your colostomy bag. No more questions when that is said.
 
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