[Shotgun Willie]

Hi. I was looking at different forums last night for info and reviews on H&K's P2000SK and liked what I saw here. I am here to stay. I read a lot of level headed comments here last night. That is hard to find sometimes in other places. Looking forward to spending time on this site. Happy shooting all.

 

[QKShooter]

shotgun willie

Hi shotgun willie :unitedsta
You ARE here to stay.
This place is habit forming.
You're probably already hooked! :smile:
Feel free to make your comments on any thread topic.
Please make yourself feel very welcome here.
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[uudl]

Welcome to the forum willie.

 

[rstickle]

Welcome, look aound and enjoy!

 

[Bud White]

Welcome

 

[P95Carry]

Hey Shotgun - stick around dude and welcome :smile:

 

[firefighter4884]

Shotugn,

welcome to the mix. are you another HK fan? there are a few of us around, although we're still outnumbered by people who love and swear by old slab sides, and of course there are the people who swear by combat tupperware...

anyway, did you find any decent reviews of the SK? I'm thinking about getting one eventually.

--Jim

 

[Shotgun Willie]

Thanks for the welcome guys.

Hey firefighter, I love the look of HK's product line but I have never fired one. So far the only bad thing I have heard about HK is the price. I have found very little on the P2000SK. But, knowing their reputation I don't think I can go wrong. My firearm experience is mostly limited to rifles and shotguns. Not sure if the p2000sk is the best gun to start with, but I wanted a good ccw.

Not sure about the reference to slab sides (1911's ?) and tupperware (glock's ? ). Kinda new to this whole scene. This seems like a great place to get info and relible opinion though. Thanks again for the welcome guys.

 

[P95Carry]

Indeed Shotgun - Slabsides is - John Moses Browning's probably most famous piece of gun design - in all its incarnations. The 1911 A1.

Tupperware - hehe - well yes, the Glock is somewhat defiled and denigrated thru this label - tho in truth and even tho I am not a ''Glocker'' - it does not deserve such a put-down!

I have P95 and P97 and their frames are polymer so - guess they too are Tupperware in part - my SW99 also. :smile:

What the heck - what shoots good is OK by me!

 

[Shotgun Willie]

Doesn't Browing have a firearms museum in Ogden, Utah? My dad has a colt combat commander but I have never fired it. Guess I ought to get around to it, eh?

 

[P95Carry]

Guess I ought to get around to it, eh?

YEP!!!!! :biggrin:

 

[Shotgun Willie]

I have been told that if you start shooting with a large caliber you can develop a flinch. I shot a .22 pistol about fifteen years ago but since then, no handguns. Should I wait to fire the Colt cc tell I have had some experience or am I ok?

On that note, what about purchasing a P2000SK .40 sw for my first handgun. Good idea or bad?

 

[P95Carry]

Shotgun - starting small does help - I am sure of that but - equally I see no reason to HAVE to develop flinch with larger cals.

A good dose of dry fire is good pre live fire and concentration then with live fire on sights and trigger control can be all that is needed.

Useful if an experienced shooter is by your side - and that way it is easy to deal with flinch if it comes - thru sometime ''ball and dummy'' methods... and advice.

Plenty of rounds thru a .22 is invariably a good starter tho - and for a semi centerfire - I'd try a 9mm first before going to .40.

Work way up often works best.

 

[Shotgun Willie]

Thanks P95. Can you change from a 9mm to .40 sw with the p2000?

 

[P95Carry]

I have zero experience with the 2000 but - going by for instance a 226 - either you can opt for 9mm - OR - the .40 platform, which gives then an option to have and fit a .357 SIG barrel... and vice versa.

9mm is AFAIK not going to give options for moving to .40.

 

[Shotgun Willie]

would it be reasonable to say, for arguements sake, since nethier of us has exp. with the 2000, that I could purchase the .40 and convert to the the 9mm. Is this a common option with sigs, glocks and the like. If so, I could essential get two guns for the price of one and that would make my wife very happy.

 

[Shotgun Willie]

if so this would give me the option to start smaller and move up as I get better. I like the idea of the larger caliber for defensive purposes. Or am I out in left field?

 

[firefighter4884]

shotgun,

most pistols that shoot a .40S&W will also allow you to shoot a .357sig. For instance, my USPc in .40 only needs a barrel change, it can even use the same mags as the .40. The reason this is possible is because the cartridge cases are exactly the same for the .357SIG and the .40S&W.

This isn't true with the 9mm and other cals. Now you're getting into different case sizes, recoils, etc, so more parts have to be changed. Theoretically it's possible, but it's not something I'd want to do as a new shooter, and without an experience armorer right there to watch me do it and check my work.

The guy who taught me how to shoot always recommended that even if you buy a centerfire pistol to start (something good for CCW, 9mm and up), that you buy a .22LR pistol to go with. You can use the same techniques on the .22LR to practice shooting, at far less cost, and removing the flinch from the equation.

I understand wanting the P2000SK for CCW, except I was wondering if something along the lines of a USPc or P2000 would work just as well. Most reviews that I've read show that the issues in concealing a firearm come more from the width of the pistol then the length. Many people on this site carry a full size 1911 as their daily carry. Adding barrel length gets you a bunch of advantages, including a longer site length, a faster velocity from the bullet, and a more accurate gun.

Anyway, my suggestion to you, buy a pistol that is slightly less money, I know a USPc was about $100 less for me then a P2000 would have been, and also pick up a decent .22LR. I got a Ruger 22/45 w/ a 5.5" barrel. You can see both my pistols at this thread.

Hope all this helps dude. I definately don't know it all, but I do try.

--Jim

BTW - I don't love or hate Glock, I respect them, and calling them tupperware is just a joke, cuz my USP is half polymer too

 

[Bumper]

Welcome to the forum, Shotgun Willie. Glad you joined us. :smile:

 

[Shotgun Willie]

This is why I joined this forum. Humble, level-headed guys. Some others are good but you get attacked if you ask too many questions, or dont know what you are doing.

Thanks for that info. I was under the impression that the change .40 to 9mm could be made, but it doesn't sound reasonable. P95 tried to tell me that earlier in the thread, but I guess I was slow on the uptake.

I am not set on the 2000sk. I just like the look and haven't heard anything bad yet. It is going to be easier for me to get my wife to say yes to one expensive higher end gun than several less expensive. Hard to get the USPc in 9mm and tell after a while that I want it in .45 or .40 sw.

I really like the look of HK but it seems Sig and Glock have a large following for a reason. I also looked at a Para for a ccw, but frankly I dont know what I am doing. I'm a little lost and I dont know anyone with an assortment to try out.

How small is small enough, how big is big enough? Never had to worry much about that with rifles and shotguns. I do recall firing a glock 9mm 10+ years ago and hated it. Guess that is why I shy away from glock. Not really a good benchmark to base my decision on. I am really quite open to suggestions on make and model. I'm not shopping yet. Still researching.

I think I will follow the advise and start with a .22 for pratice and training. Still unsure what to get for my ccw though.