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Bryan, I ripped my left rotator throwing square bales about 7-8 years ago (early to mid 50’s) and lived with it for a few years. Shots stopped working, pain became more constant. The surgeon looked at the MRI and said “borderline“. It got worse and finally I’d scheduled an appointment to say, we’ve got to get it done. The day before that appointment I was putting wrenches to the John Deere and in the act of pulling up on a 1 1/2” wrench, I felt it go completely. I stood very still and hoped that I didn’t make water. For many minutes.

Surgery and recovery we’re tough. Living without participating in your life is tougher. I lost many bits and pieces of a year but it’s behind me.

Good luck amigo.
 

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I can understand your reaction to the Tramadol. My wife was prescribed 50MG for an old whiplash injury to her neck & she would take half of one of those and go right to sleep.
When I was taking the 100MG - I didn't feel any effects at all except that it barely took the edge off my pain. Made it halfway tolerable & I still had zero problems operating the Hadron Collider.
Well, except for the fact that I accidentally created a black hole that sucked in one of the technicians but, he ended up being discovered inside of an oak tree trunk 9 years later.
So the family was at least able to get some sort of closure.
And...that was a good thing.

Seriously I do feel the pain of anybody suffering with a torn rotator cuff. It's like you can't even "tough it up" and work through the OUCH! because you just physically cannot get that arm to work sometimes.

Oh and BTW with those totally bizarre and morbid hallucinations - you can't be a forum Moderator anymore. 🤣
 

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I've been rode hard and put away wet, so dare not offer any medical advice. If I did I'd caveat it with "here's what I would do; probably best to do the exact opposite."

On the brighter side, have you tried shooting lefty? No, not at one of those antifa basement dwellers... using your left hand to shoot.
 

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Oh and BTW with those totally bizarre and morbid hallucinations - you can't be a forum Moderator anymore. 🤣
Yeah, I realize that.

After all, I might hallucinate while seated at the intricate and most complicated Forum control panel and infract every member on the Forum who did not say "Glock 19" in answer to any question fielded here on the Forum and that'd be a tragedy most disastrous.

 

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FIRST: Get yourself to an orthopedic surgeon poste haste! They usually start with a shot of cortisone in the shoulder, which does not one bit of good, but that is "Protocol". Then come the X Rays and an MRI, or sometimes just an MRI. THEN you will find out if you only need extensive physical therapy OR surgery. If you need surgery, GET IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE because the recovery time is minimum of 6 months, but usually longer when you're not in the spring chicken category any longer.

I had pain in my right shoulder. It only required a bunch of physical therapy sessions to stretch the ligaments that were grating against the bone spur. That was really lucky because if I had let it go on, those ligaments would have been sawed in half and then I would have had to have surgery. THEN a couple years later I RIPPED my left rotator cuff. I knew when it happened - I felt it happen. Oh gosh, the pain when I tried to move my arm in a certain way!!!

Same ortho surgeon: Yes, the MRI showed a tear. I asked her HOW SOON she could do the surgery because we were scheduled to go to an advanced shooting school in 3 months. This was Tuesday. She looked at her calendar and had an opening on Friday. Friday it was!!!! Since I can't stay in hospitals, she had me in, the entire surgery done, and checked back out to go home in FOUR HOURS.

THEN THE PAIN BEGAN, and oh my it was worse than horrendous. Yes, she gave me a prescription but I can't take pain pills of any kind, and that narcotic made me violently sick to my stomach. So, for weeks and weeks (and weeks), taking only Tylenol because I didn't know about Aleve, and toughing it through the PT sessions, I perservered. MY DELIGHT was the day I was at PT and the therapist walked in and I quickly assumed my shooting position with BOTH ARMS up and in place and said, "SEE WHAT I CAN DO!!!" She was as happy as I was.

I did not go to the school in 3 months, but we were able to reschedule for a later session that year. That was over 15 years ago. NOW: I can't hardly walk, can't hardly see, can't hear a darned thing, BUT BY GOLLY I CAN STILL SHOOT!!!!

SO, go see the doctor as soon as possible and get yourself fixed, my good on line friend!
 

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Doc ShooterGranny knows!

She's nailed the sequence.

The local medico is handling things at present. Two cortisone shots and a prescription for meloxicam hasn't reduced the swelling, but the cardiologist takes a dim view of meloxicam's side effects on folks with cardio-vascular ailments or hypertension. Next Tuesday I'm scheduled to be evaluated for the MRI of which you speak ShooterGranny.
 

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Bryan, one truth stands clear among your posts today: this growin' old stuff is NOT for sissies!

I've been blessed to miss the cardiac surgical adventures so far, but instead I've kept the neurosurgeon and orthopedic guy busy with spine and joint work. Prior to surgeries, I was in the care of a seriously smart pain doc who kept me mobile until we ran out of non-surgical restorative options. My biggest takeaway from him was that pain creates its own medical problems, and as a result, "staying ahead of the pain" has been a mantra for both Lady Colleen and me. Colleen hallucinates uncomfortably under narcotics, and the "oxy-" drugs get me so mentally fuzzy I have to contemplate dealing with the pain versus the fuzzy mental state I get from them. The good news is that I know beyond the shadow of a doubt that I am not a candidate for addiction to opiates.

Circling back to you: Pain is not normal, and continued pain creates its own secondary problems. I suggest an orthopedics doc to start with for the shoulder problems. They are not going to fix themselves!
 

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"Getting old sucks, and is a gift."
The aches and pains I feel today are the result of a full and active life I was once able to enjoy.
Seeing my children grow to be responsible, caring adults.
And the Grandkids!
Arthritis is beginning to be a hindrance for me. I used to run marathons, now just walking hurts. I used to be a gymnast and martial arts instructor. That same arthritis is in my shoulder and neck.
Maybe if I hadn't abused my body earlier then today would be easier.
Who ever said life was easy.

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Getting old for sure sucks,but I would definitely look at the surgery for the rotator cuff .I am 68 and tore mine last September playing golf.The pain was unbearable and I couldn't lift my arm straight out ,much less over my head.I finally saw an orthopedic surgeon in November and had surgery the day after Christmas.I had read all the horror stories about rehab and possibilities of retearing ,but if I wanted to play golf again and do normal things around the house,it was the only option.
Thee surgery was successful,I had a totally torn RC and partially torn biceps that he fixed.The pain was not fun ,but not as bad as I thought it would be.I was in a sling for 10 weeks and this made even getting dressed hard and painful,but I survived.The dreaded rehab was not as bad either.I had a great Pt that followed the drs.schedule but was gentle in doing things.My and the surgeons goal was that I could play golf again in 6-7 nonths.I was cleared to play in 5 1/2.I will say the best thing if you have the surgery is to find a good doctor,talk about everything from the surgery,rehab,and future goals ,and by all means,listen to his and the PT instructions.Trying to do more than they recommend is NOT advisable.It could lead to more issues.I am playing golf weekly and having no issues so far.There is no guarantee that it can't happen again,but for me the surgery was definitely worth it.I have shot my pistol and AR a couple times ,but I have not shot the 12 ga. because it was not fun to me before the injury.
Good luck and I hope things get better.
 

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I was in the same problem but was with my 68 yr old eyes. Finally was able to get my cataract and corrective surgery but took two months because of the Chinese Flu. Have no problems when shooting hand guns but when I go to the range with my m1a I've got a bipod to shoot it. Good luck
 

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My lower back and knees are not n the best of shape. A few years back I was home, stood up and kinda groaned as I did. My Dad said “You’re too young for that!” I told him I was abused as a child by my parents! He started to nod in agreement then went “Heyyyy!”

And I’m watching this thread carefully. Last year I was having problems with a sore shoulder. I lifted my arm up to put something on a shelf and it popped. Hurt so bad it took my breath away. So here I am standing holding my left arm in obvious pain and can’t talk. Sister thought I had a heart attack and was about to call 911, I’m trying to tell her not to, scared her half to death. Anyway, I need to get this looked at so I’m watching this. With trepidation!
 

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My lower back and knees are not n the best of shape. A few years back I was home, stood up and kinda groaned as I did. My Dad said “You’re too young for that!” I told him I was abused as a child by my parents! He started to nod in agreement then went “Heyyyy!”

And I’m watching this thread carefully. Last year I was having problems with a sore shoulder. I lifted my arm up to put something on a shelf and it popped. Hurt so bad it took my breath away. So here I am standing holding my left arm in obvious pain and can’t talk. Sister thought I had a heart attack and was about to call 911, I’m trying to tell her not to, scared her half to death. Anyway, I need to get this looked at so I’m watching this. With trepidation!
Rotator cuff surgery is rough, but SO WORTH IT after you faithfully do the PT, and continue after your official sessions are through! And you might be lucky and have something that can be "fixed" with only PT, but if you wait the damage will increase. Find a good orthopedic surgeon: One who doesn't want to get out the knives and saws right off the bat, but wants to do all else before surgery. "Just do it."

I had one for both of my shoulder problems, and for when I broke my arm. Then she retired. Then I found one that specializes in only hand and wrist problems. He was pretty adamant about not wanting to do surgery but sent me for PT to therapy specialists that only do hands and wrists. He also gave me a couple cortisone shots but they didn't help. The PT did. And most recently, Gramps went to one that specializes in knees. He also adamantly did not want to do a knee replacement because of Gramps' age, and he explained to Gramps that even a partial knee replacement very often collapses in older people. He's doing "gel" shots in the knee for Gramps.

I don't think that all of the honest surgeons are limited to our area of Tennessee. I do know we have some cut-happy ones here also.
 

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In 07 I had my first surgery to repair a SLAP tear and RC. I had tried shots and therapy.
I had gotten to the point that I could not sleep at night because of the pain. After that first surgery It took about three years before I could shoot a High Power rifle. That was when I quit collecting Buffalo Rifles and started collecting .22's!
In 2016 I had the same surgery done again but this time I had a torn RC, a separated Bicep, a couple torn tendons, and debris in the socket. It took three surgerys to make me right again but the healing was much quicker this time. I have a few clunks and bumps but no pain, and no loss of motion. Altho I could shoot what ever I want I limit my shooting to 30-30 and 6.5x55 for big game and 223 for coyotes! I don't hunt any less, I just have to get closer!
For awhile I did have to learn to shoot left handed, the three surgerys took 9 months, and then some healing time after that. But I'm back to putting up hay, and cutting firewood equilly with either arm.
After the second surgery I only took the pain meds for two nights, and then just cold packs after that. I did not do much therapy after. I had more trouble reminding myself not to do to much ! But the surgeon kept reminding me! Good Luck. DR
 

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Get thee to a sports medicine physician. I developed frozen shoulder a year ago or so. Procrastination of not getting checked out made the situation much worse. Taking over a year off from golf. Can’t do certain things right now. Lot of painful PT. It is a serious condition that can lead to permanent damage when treatment is delayed.

My advice, get an appointment with a sports medicine physician ASAP. Skip the family doctor.
 
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Our family Doctor is the gate keeper required by insurance. We see her twice a year, so if we email her for a referral she gets it pronto. She is an Internal Specialist hence very bright, observant, and doesn’t really want to touch us. 😂😂😂

Just make sure you go to a shoulder specialist surgeon When you get to that point.
 
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