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So a friend of mine, works for a government agency dealing with firearms on a regular (everyday) basis. He was able to take a tour of the Hi-point manufactruing facility. The owner, Tom Deeb, guided their tour. He told me some interesting things he learned while there.

Number one, just to show how cheaply made these guns are...He said that a large blast furnace was bought and brought in to heat treat the finish on the guns. However, they use two old used household kitchen ranges to bake on the finishes sitting in a corner against a wall. My friend said they were different colors and looked like something that should be in the junk yard. They put them on pans and put them in the oven to bake them like cookies. The owner says "the guys couldnt outwork the oven so why bother with that big ol blast furnace." :bier:

Number two...As a testament to what kind of a somewhat shrewd businessman the owner truly is, he says it takes his workers an average of 52 minutes (don't quote me)to assemble a frame on a gun. He says that there are plenty of ways for him to up the production time in his plants, but why? He says if he speeds up production, he puts more guns on the market faster which decreases demands which would cause him to lay off workers. If he keeps production times and numbers as is, he keeps his work force all working and feeding their families.

Both very interesting things good and bad. I just couldnt believe they are making guns in kitchen ovens. :blink: It was however refreshing to see a big businessman who is interested in more than just profit. Just some things to chew on....:smoke23:
 

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interesting....it doesn't surprise me on the "cooking guns in the oven" bit...I have a hi-point .380 and while it's fun to shoot it's definitely not the most quality piece in my arsenal. I can't believe this guy would show off his facility if it was in this kind of shape, but you have to hand it to him at least he's caring towards his workers and sounds like he's working in the right direction...who knows one day he could be the next big thing. I wish them well.
 

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They say he is a very common down to earth person, and that if you met him you would not think he was a millionaire businessman. He said that he was at an awards banquet to receive an award where my friend was, and he said he didnt even wear a suit jacket, because he didnt own one. LOL Dressing up to him was black jeans. LOL
 

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They say he is a very common down to earth person, and that if you met him you would not think he was a millionaire businessman. He said that he was at an awards banquet to receive an award where my friend was, and he said he didnt even wear a suit jacket, because he didnt own one. LOL Dressing up to him was black jeans. LOL
This guy sounds like a real good ol'boy. Haha well atleast he sounds like he's staying genuine.
 

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Wow, I think I finally found something I can respect about HiPoint.
 

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Wow, I think I finally found something I can respect about HiPoint.
Ya know, I was thinking the same thing. Almost makes me want to buy one. Well, maybe not.

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Ya know, I was thinking the same thing. Almost makes me want to buy one. Well, maybe not.
+1 Almost being the key word. Its good that he takes his workers and their families into this decision making process. Although I suspect that the drop in demand would also lower what he can charge and therefor his profit margines, so that probably is on his mind as much as having to lay off workers.
 

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I own several of his creations, they still do what I want them to do. But hey there will aways be a hitch in everyones get-along. Thanks for the inside look.
 

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i love this story.

here's an American company, who outsources nothing, making a product that actually works. i've owned Hi Points, and will again.
 

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+1 Almost being the key word. Its good that he takes his workers and their families into this decision making process. Although I suspect that the drop in demand would also lower what he can charge and therefor his profit margines, so that probably is on his mind as much as having to lay off workers.

I didn't know that there WAS demand for Hi-Points. lol
 

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haha OP's words, not mine ;)
 

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I don't know what to say...except perhaps that I admire the man but not the gun.
 

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I've talked to Tom's wife Shirley on the phone ordering some mags for my 995. Very helpful and seems like a very sweet person. Nice to know there just regular down to earth folks.
 

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I love to hear about responsible people doing good things. I really like the idea of keeping your people employed. Too bad I think their product is junk or I would bring them my business.
 

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its not hard to believe anything about the company as reported....they build an inexpensive gun that isnt the most beautiful thing in the world but it allows people who might normally not be able to afford to own a gun own one...they go bang and from what ive seen at the range can be fairly accurate...ive thought about purchasing one just because theyre so damned inexpensive..but thats just the "i wanna buy more guns" guy talking....

good on em...theres an a$$ for every seat...
 

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I didn't know that there WAS demand for Hi-Points. lol
Well my future BIL and FIL just purchased a 9mm and 380 respectively, so somebodys buying them. Not me...mind you but somebody. For the record i tried to talk them both out of the ourchase, but they bought them anyways. Bought them for their wives, to use at home and "out walking". Tried to educate them both on the merits of spending like a life depended on it, but they still went cheap.:spankme::twak:
 

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He might be a nice guy, but I have a C9 that jams so often, I wouldn't give it away. I may just destroy it at some point.
 

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:congrats:Alot I don t like about them, but one thing people use to be proud of is that it is made in the Good Ol USA.:congrats: And yes I did own one once. Maybe they will improve .
 
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