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I see posts on lots of forums complaining about the fit and function on just about every brand. You know how it goes. Either brand X doesn't perform or the finish wears off. No brand is perfect and lemons happen. I'm sure we have alot of HK owners here and I'm one of them. Please list any problems you personally have had with your Hk. I'd like to avoid any "second hand" stories if possible.

Personally I have owned 2 USPc in 9mm V1. I bought both of them used and have never had any issue. I don't have a round count but i'd say i'm over 7k on this one. The finish still looks great.
 

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I wouldn't really say its an issue, but the triggers suck in HKs. I used to carry a P2000. I liked the weight of it, although the finish did wear off quickly on some parts, especially the slide and slide stop. After shooting a few sigs i just couldn't go back to the HK.
 

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My P2000 has not had a single malfunction-ever. The ergonomics are great too with adjustable backstraps, slide cuts minimizing width where it counts, among others.

But, as already been mentioned, the trigger is awful: very heavy on the first pull and modest on the rest with a loooooong reset (I think the first pull is somewhere around 15lbs-no kidding....it's safe though <rolls eyes>.) Unfortunately, there's not much that can be done to make it better mechanically either, and there's no aftermarket configurability accordingly. (Mine is a V3...even the other versions out there have fairly long resets.)

Man, if my P2000 had the trigger pull of my Glock.....of course, if gun wishes came true, I'd have a fleet of polymer-framed P7 double stacks. Alas....

I mostly carry a Glock these days.

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I converted my P2000 LEM to the light pull of around 5lbs. It was worth every penny ($10) and I did it myself in my garage. I have been looking at the Glock 19 since I get them at LEO/Military discount.
 

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I have not had any.

I've had HK pistols for years. No problems.
I also had SA XD's. No problems.

Bersa has the best trigger on any DA semi auto on the market.

But I am a HK guy. I like the one's that I have. I know they work.
I shoot tem well. To me that's all that counts.
 

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I'm a unabashed HK fan. I've yet to have one malfunction. Complaining about HK triggers is like complaining about ice cream flavors... nobody makes more choices of triggers in pistols than HK. One of the best triggers I've ever used is the HK USP match trigger, found in my Elite.

I've also got two of the standard DA/SA pisols, a USPc and a P2000sk. In over thirty years of CC, I've tried a lot of different guns, although I've only chosen four to carry during that time. Without a doubt the P2000sk is the best CCW I've ever seen. It has it all, and like many HKs you have your choice of three different triggers.

I also have a couple P7s. Of course these are a different animal altogether, but like all the other HKs they are reliable, robust, accurate and simple to use.

There are certainly other great carry guns made. Sig, Glock, S&W, Beretta, etc., but none of these others have put together the complete package that made the pistol "SING" in my hand and deliver absolute reliability.

FWIW: HK has brought in another batch of the P7M8, but alas... I can only dream about it at this time, my "gun fund" being what it is. :redface:
 

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The only problem I've ever had with my HK's (2 USP45's, a P7 and a P7M8) is my USP45 would not feed the "Winclean" ammo with the TC design bullet...and, they tend not to lock back on an empty magazine with stock springs...Wolff +10% fixed that.

The P7's have been flawless.
 

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Out of all of the handguns at my disposal I would grab my USPc .45 first as a combat pistol and then my USPc .40 second.

My USPc .40 has the LEM trigger and I just spent a small fortune with HK getting my USPc .45 converted to LEM also.

I love my Sig Sauer P220 dearly but if push comes to shove it's HK for me when it counts.

This is only my opinion and as always YMMV.

Be Safe,

NosaM
 

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Another flawless P7 here, the one thing I've seen on the finish on some of the newer guns is that the finish of the small parts wears off, I've seen a couple P30s with gold looking slide releases. Would that keep me from buying one? No.
 

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I have a P7M8 and no malfunctions related to the pistol or original HK magazines. I had a bad aftermarket magazine, might have been a "Pro Mag" don't remember and I got rid of it. It gets hot after more than a hundred rounds. The finish on mine is kind of ugly, purple-ish mottled blue with a mill mark where a logo was removed. I don't care and it doesn't affect the reliability any, someday maybe I'll send it to Ford's for a refinish.
 

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HK builds a great gun, but I wont endorse HK simply because of their tactics on sales and making money. They rape you coming and going. Getting parts is like pulling teeth and I can't stand the "We're HK, we're awesome and we hate you" attitude toward their customers. I have news for you HK, there are other makes out their that are just as reliable, have people that will take care of the customer after the sale and they charge half the price.
The LE side of things is a little better, but not much.

Anyway, they build a good gun.... the company sucks though.
 

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Sixto,

I just have to ask, how long did it take to figure out that signature? :rofl:
I had a long, bad day at work. When I got home, I had a 6 pack and a quiet house. To answer your question, I really dont know. A couple of hours maybe.:embarassed:
 

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I have an HK USP 9f and it has been flawless for the 4 years and the who knows how many thousands of rounds I have put through it. It has the LEM trigger. I want to switch it to the Light LEM at some point - of course, every time I look for the parts they are unavailable on the market. The one FTF I have had over the past 4 years was due to a magazine jam.

As reliable as the gun has been, I have relegated the HK to a house gun, since I find it too large to conceal except under heavy clothing. All things considered, if I were to buy another pistol the size of the USPf or USPc, I would probably be tempted to go for a Smith and Wesson M&P. The ones I have shot have better triggers than the LEM and fit my hand better (the USPF is a bit too large for my hand) and as a result I am more accurate with M&P's than my HK (though I still easily shoot my HK to COM at self defense ranges). They also cost a hundred's less, but frankly I have always thought that to be a secondary consideration for a SD gun
 

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I have 2 HKs and will second the thoughts about poor triggers. There is someone highly reccommended on the HK Forum, Bill Springfield, who lightens the trigger for $55! That said I love the way they shoot and feel in your hand. They have replaced my Sigs for 90% of EDC.

I do not think H&K is still in their "hate" mode. I have received prompt replys from customer service to questions. I have also received parts, mag floor plates and springs for the LEM trigger within a week.
 

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BKLYNBOY, If you contact HK for the parts they will tell you it is months out. I got mine in about 2-3 weeks. Just place the order and wait is my suggestion.
 

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This is no joke...

3 weeks ago I purchased a LEM kit on Thursday, had it on Monday. HK sent me and e-mail recommending they do install based on the age of my USPc. (date code 98). I relented, paid 57.00 to ship my USPc out on Tuesday and Friday afternoon they called telling me it was ready and I would have it back the following Tuesday. Labor cost and shipping (overnight) was an additional $95.00. It took me about 6 months of serious effort trying to get it done but I finally got it done.

I have often times heard people complain about HK and their customer service attitude but since civilian and LEO are now down in Ga. I think you get some of that "Southern Hospitality" now days.

Expensive? Yes. Quality? Yes. Reliability? Yes. Can I shoot them in an effective manner? Absolutely, and that's why I own them. Are there other handguns on the market just as reliable and durable? Yes. I'd have a safe full of Glocks if I could shoot them as well as I can shoot a USP.

Be Safe,

NosaM
 

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I can tell you the Hk 45c model in V1 is an improvement on the long DA trigger. As others have said, HK makes a bunch of flavors when it comes to triggers and anyone not happy with their current setup should check into the light LEM.

I've always heard HK has an attitude in CS. I have never had to use them. One of the range officers where I shoot takes time to trash them every time I walk in. Supposedly they asked him to send his entire gun back instead of just sending him the parts to fix it. Keep in mind his USP is older than mine and they had already offered him a label and free repair.

Anyone with negative CS info from HK feel free to post it also.
 
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