I am trying to locate some Hornady Personal Defense 40S&W 180grain ammo. Everywhere I look, they are sold out of it. I want to buy some to keep in my open carry gun as I only have FMJ right now. Anyone know of anywhere that has this ammo in stock?
Everyone should switch to Hornady. That will leave more Gold Dots Ranger T's and HST's on the shelf for me.Are you dead set on Hornady? IMO and the opinion of ballistics experts there are many better options.
YES!!!Everyone should switch to Hornady. That will leave more Gold Dots Ranger T's and HST's on the shelf for me.
I did a little searching online and came up with mostly good reviews. I don't suppose you have any links to the differing opinions?Are you dead set on Hornady? IMO and the opinion of ballistics experts there are many better options.
Well, it just so happens that I have a link to Dr. Gary Roberts who is a very well respected ballistics expert who's job it is to test various bullet designs and ballistic vests etc. He has a page that lists his top picks for the best self defense ammo choices for each handgun caliber. If it's not on the list he doesn't recommend it because it did not meet his and the FBI's requirements for whatever reason. A round must pass a series of tests in calibrated ballistic gel in order to be on his recommendation list. Believe me he tests everything. He has regular updates on AR15.comI did a little searching online and came up with mostly good reviews. I don't suppose you have any links to the differing opinions?
there was a follow up on the .38sp and it peformed much better,also 4 other .38 rounds failed to expand as well. there is a good reason the Hornady CD in .40S&W is not on his list. its not available yet to the best of my knowledge.Well, it just so happens that I have a link to Dr. Gary Roberts who is a very well respected ballistics expert who's job it is to test various bullet designs and ballistic vests etc. He has a page that lists his top picks for the best self defense ammo choices for each handgun caliber. If it's not on the list he doesn't recommend it because it did not meet his and the FBI's requirements for whatever reason.
Truer words were never spoken!!!Beyond that, they will all work. In one test, a certain bullet may be marginally better. In another test, you will see a different result. You can overthink this and make yourself crazy!
Cool - thanks for the links!Well, it just so happens that I have a link to Dr. Gary Roberts who is a very well respected ballistics expert who's job it is to test various bullet designs and ballistic vests etc.
Cool - thanks for the links!
[quote =cmdrdredd;1336039 ]Also here where a .38spl Hornady Critical Defense load failed to expand when fired through 4 layers of denim. BUG's: .380 ACP vs. .38 Sp - M4Carbine.net Forums
There was a follow up report in which Dr. Roberts allowed Hornady to submit another batch of FTX (hand picked if you ask me). It miraculously worked in the second round of testing. I'm sure that somebody will be right along with a link to the more successful testing.I thought the whole idea of the Critical Defense was to prevent clogging so it would expand. That test seems to show differently. I would really like to see more tests of that...
:haha::rofl::haha: I concur 100%!Everyone should switch to Hornady. That will leave more Gold Dots Ranger T's and HST's on the shelf for me.
Right, but as you can see. Dr. Roberts does not personally recommend any Hornady load for any caliber currently to market. That's good enough for me to use something different. Should it work? Probably yes, but I sleep better knowing that someone thoroughly tested the loading I carry and use in my defensive pistols and that same expert says it's good to go.There was a follow up report in which Dr. Roberts allowed Hornady to submit another batch of FTX (hand picked if you ask me). It miraculously worked in the second round of testing. I'm sure that somebody will be right along with a link to the more successful testing.
As for me, I'll wait until Hornady hand picks every bullet in the box before I'll buy it.