This looks too good to be true, so I'm buying a couple of boxes: One to shoot to see where the .40 S&W prints from my M27 Glock and the rest to fill mags for my trip on Tuesday next week. If it works in the 40, I'm certainly going to pick up some in .45 and .308.QKShooter said:YES...The Cartridge Cases REALLY ARE JET BLACK (Black Nickel)
Has anybody shot this stuff yet? The 12 gauge stuff sounds extra nice AND the .45 looks (to me) like it would be real great with its "way reduced" muzzle flash
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No way - QK (hey, that rhymes!!)Why couldn't they have made them POWDER BLUE??? Doggoneit.
That's interesting, I have heard nothing but PRAISE for the XTP as a self defense round. I bought like 500 of them in 45ACP but then, even military hard ball will do well there. Well, I'm gonna keep 'em anyway. LOLghost10750 said:Have not tried any of the pistol rounds since they I'm pretty sure they are loaded with the XTP bullet. It is a fine hunting bullet but there has been some testing that showed poor expansion and over penetration in a personal defense pistol round. Would like to see some more testing on this. I do use them in reloads as a backup personal defense round (for max penetration against harder targets), but think I will stick with the Golden Saber as a primary load to carry daily.
It IS excellent ammo, almost too good. I have an expended round that was fired into a soaked phone book and resulted in perfect expansion. A total "star" pattern with those nasty little points the surgeons were complaining sliced through their latex gloves while removing said bullets from bad guys corpses. The resulting media blitz had the effect of turning the brilliant ad campaign into a ummmmm"dead weight" around Winchester's neck and so they voluntarily withdrew the product from the market. It may have returned as the Ranger SXT but because of the negative press surrounding "Black Talon" I would NEVER carry it on the street. I just don't want to give anything to the media or antigun prosecutors to chew on.KC135 said:Guys, remember...black talon...its all about marketing...not about best ammo for personal self defense. That does not mean that it is not excellent ammo. Time will tell.
I LOVE the Nyclad! It was great because it was the only round available in a standard pressure 38sp that would expand consistently from a snubbie. It was clean, too.KC135 said:My favorite 38 special load..Federals nyclad hp, opened up nicely in wet sand.
LOL that's HILARIOUS! I remember a few years ago, the NAACP went ballistic over the use of the standard B-9 silouhette target because it was "black" and they felt a message was being sent. So a ton of departments switched to the GREEN silouhette target. Then the guys in the police choppers who spot for the ground patrol units started telling the cops on the ground using the new designated target type as inOD said:We would have people come into the shop and ask for "that Black Felon ammo."![]()
Might have had something to do with the name change. :wink: