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First part:
You suddenly find yourself with a knife to your neck from behind.

Do you feel this is a hostage situation? Are you a hostage and helpless or can you do something [ anything ] to effect a safe resolution to this and get away?

Second part:

You suddenly find yourself facing an aggressive person who has pulled a knife and has it to throat, or chest threatening to cut/stab you if you do not give them the money.

What do you do? What do you think you can do to effect your personal safety? Do you comply and hope for the best?

What is your mindset/thoughts at being threatened with a knife like this?
 

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Kill that person immediately, regardless of how much damage you will get. Dead is dead. Always assume that they He/She are gong to kill you anyways, since they have shown intent to do so. You have to always regard when Deadly Force is authorized, based on your (where you live) state laws. The state laws are the problem, not protecting youself from violence.

Can everyone just tell Congress and this Administration that we need an equal level of legal self defense on the books?
 

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1st: Turn in on him towards the knife while pushing back on him, draw, shoot, repeat if necessary...

2nd: While hands are in the surrender position, a quick eye flick towards the BG, bouncing to either the left or right drawing, shoot, repeat if necessary.....
 

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The original poster never indicated that he was armed with an SD weapon.

Knife to throat: He would probably be distracted and disgusted when I pissed on his foot. Once that happened I would take advantage and try to escape.

Knife to chest: Backup as quickly as possible and then RUN!!!
 

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First part:

You've already lost the initiative. I would comply, and be ready to act if he opens the door for evasion or counterattack.

Second part:

Is he in front or behind me? Is he extended, is the knife high or low, how close is he? All these are factors. It all comes down to whether I think I have enough time to act. But in general I'd start his OODA loop going one way (probably by appearing to comply, reaching for my wallet, etc.), then I'd simultaneously step back to gain distance and draw, using my support hand to ward him off if necessary. I would not attempt to disarm him, if he keeps coming after the gun's out it's time to fire.

Maybe it's me, but I'm not terribly scared of people who threaten me with a knife (this probably has something to do with the fact that I've been threatened with knives a couple of times). Once it's out and I can see it, a knife loses a lot of its frightfulness because unless I'm in very confined quarters I'm reasonably confident of my ability to keep it out of my torso. The exception is when the attacker is in a control position, such as behind me with his arm around me and the knife at my jugular. That situation is very bad because you lose one of your better options against a knife: moving.

*Edit* I see some have suggested running. I interpret the OP as meaning the attacker is in contact range already. You really don't get to turn around and run before you get stabbed, unless you can somehow get a step on the attacker by throwing off his OODA loop or you can manage to put some kind of obstacle between you two. All he has to do is take a step, you have to turn and take a step. It might work, but only if the attacker wasn't serious to begin with...because if he wants to stab you he will. If you want to try this experiment at home, use a plastic spoon.
 

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First part:

You've already lost the initiative. I would comply, and be ready to act if he opens the door for evasion or counterattack.

Second part:

Is he in front or behind me? Is he extended, is the knife high or low, how close is he? All these are factors. It all comes down to whether I think I have enough time to act. But in general I'd start his OODA loop going one way (probably by appearing to comply, reaching for my wallet, etc.), then I'd simultaneously step back to gain distance and draw, using my support hand to ward him off if necessary. I would not attempt to disarm him, if he keeps coming after the gun's out it's time to fire.

Maybe it's me, but I'm not terribly scared of people who threaten me with a knife (this probably has something to do with the fact that I've been threatened with knives a couple of times). Once it's out and I can see it, a knife loses a lot of its frightfulness because unless I'm in very confined quarters I'm reasonably confident of my ability to keep it out of my torso. The exception is when the attacker is in a control position, such as behind me with his arm around me and the knife at my jugular. That situation is very bad because you lose one of your better options against a knife: moving.
In my humble opinion, of this post. If you threaten my life (knife or or stick or stone). We ain't going backwards and talking out the situation. Just sayin............... Now I will admit that if it is not legal, I won't 'Do It'............... but.............. Why should we put up with the REGRESSIVE PROGRESSOVE LEFT telling us that we do not have rights to defend ourselves?
 

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In my humble opinion, of this post. If you threaten my life (knife or or stick or stone). We ain't going backwards and talking out the situation. Just sayin............... Now I will admit that if it is not legal, I won't 'Do It'............... but.............. Why should we put up with the REGRESSIVE PROGRESSOVE LEFT telling us that we do not have rights to defend ourselves?
I...I don't get it. How does this relate to what I wrote?
 

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Ignore this post, please - thank you. What I origionally wrote in response was ......... well, I think NightOwl76 might be a 'baiter'. Mods - you decide.

Note: I am not engaging this individual anymore until I understand if he/she is legit. ........just sayin...........
 

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Kill that person immediately, regardless of how much damage you will get. Dead is dead. Always assume that they He/She are gong to kill you anyways. You have to always regard when Deadly Force is authorized, based on your (where you live) state laws. The state laws are the problem, not protecting youself from violence.

Can everyone just tell Congress and this Administration that we need an equal level of legal self defense on the books?
Are you kidding this Administration just wants to take all the guns away not make it easier for anyone owning one.
 

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Im certainly not saying that Id do the following, but remember that the BG expects the victim at act in a certain way. One of the best scenarios I saw enacted was when the "victim" just broke down, sobbing, screaming, "dont kill me, please please please", equation.

Instead of a rational victim, the BG is faced with someone who has stopped listening, "cant" comply, and is attracting unwanted attention to the situation. While pretending that b.s. you can work towards taking the BG down, getting to your weapon, etc. Regardless of how it works out, it could buy you some options, if a direct force on force scenario doesnt look workable.
 

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Im certainly not saying that Id do the following, but remember that the BG expects the victim at act in a certain way. One of the best scenarios I saw enacted was when the "victim" just broke down, sobbing, screaming, "dont kill me, please please please", equation.

Instead of a rational victim, the BG is faced with someone who has stopped listening, "cant" comply, and is attracting unwanted attention to the situation. While pretending that b.s. you can work towards taking the BG down, getting to your weapon, etc. Regardless of how it works out, it could buy you some options, if a direct force on force scenario doesnt look workable.
I wonder if pretending to have a heart attack, or hyperventilating, would have a similar effect. You just need to throw the attacker off his script to give yourself a window of opportunity.
 

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I wonder if pretending to have a heart attack, or hyperventilating, would have a similar effect. You just need to throw the attacker off his script to give yourself a window of opportunity.
Absolutely, (IMO), that would be the same kind of thing. Plus, they probably have zero interest in killing anyone, and wouldnt want to hang around while your die from your heart attack, lol, and get charged with murder.
 

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I am tired of all these bad things that happen to me . Just the other day i woke up with a gun to my head .............................. I think i'm moving in the woods :gah:
 

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Absolutely, (IMO), that would be the same kind of thing. Plus, they probably have zero interest in killing anyone, and wouldnt want to hang around while your die from your heart attack, lol, and get charged with murder.
Of course they are, that time. What about the next time?
 

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Of course they are, that time. What about the next time?
The point is that by throwing the attacker off his script, you've done two things: you've given yourself more options (good), and you've put him in a situation where he needs to make a decision (good). You might not need to use force, and if you do now you've bought yourself more time to do it in. What's not to like? Remember, it's not just about what you can do to your attacker. It's very much also about what you wouldn't want your attacker to do to you.
 

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The point is that by throwing the attacker off his script, you've done two things: you've given yourself more options (good), and you've put him in a situation where he needs to make a decision (good). You might not need to use force, and if you do now you've bought yourself more time to do it in. What's not to like? Remember, it's not just about what you can do to your attacker. It's very much also about what you wouldn't want your attacker to do to you.
The BG started the fight. I am not worried about his feeling. his family life, his life in general. He pulled a knife. A deadly weapon. He will be met with greater force. Period....
 

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The BG started the fight. I am not worried about his feeling. his family life, his life in general. He pulled a knife. A deadly weapon. He will be met with greater force. Period....
My only concern is getting back home to my wife and kids. If I can do it without deadly force--and without putting myself in a situation where I might need to spend my life's savings to defend myself from lawsuits--then that's what I'm doing. I won't shoot because "I can". I'll only shoot because I have to. If he turns and runs when he sees the gun, that's just peachy. I get to call 911, give his description to the cops, and move on with my life.
 

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My only concern is getting back home to my wife and kids. If I can do it without deadly force--and without putting myself in a situation where I might need to spend my life's savings to defend myself from lawsuits--then that's what I'm doing. I won't shoot because "I can". I'll only shoot because I have to. If he turns and runs when he sees the gun, that's just peachy. I get to call 911, give his description to the cops, and move on with my life.
If having a knife at your throat, or in your chest is not a deadly enough attack, then If I were you I would re-evaluate my mindset. Getting home is the first thing on my mind. I will not trust or put my life in the hands of someone that has just pulled a knife on me. If the actions created by the BG, create a need for me to shoot him or be stabbed then the threat will be stopped.
 
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The answer to the question, "What would you do if..." is always "it depends on the specific factors in play at that precise moment". Escape is nearly always first on the list. but there are some general guidelines.

The best time to counter a knife attack is instantly when it first appears. This catches the attacker off guard because he is expecting submission, not resistance. Think about it. If his desire is to simply kill you that can be achieved with a simple thrust up into the kidneys from behind. A knife attack across the throat runs a higher risk of being detected and countered so it is less desirable unless the person under attack is wearing armor. So, for a civilian to receive such an attack suggests that the intention is to capture and control you.

In an attack from behind, in general terms, you want to immobilize the wrist and forearm holding the knife, then take the attacker off balance. From there you can effect a take-down while controlling the knife. If you do it properly you'll likely break his elbow and possibly dislocate the shoulder as well. There are several variations on this.

From in front of you;

Again, a threat is not an attack. The attacker is expecting compliance and that gives you the element of surprise--if you can use it. Distance is important. If you can reach his knife hand without taking a step you have an advantage.

Again, you want to control his wrist while taking him off balance and down. There are a number of techniques available but the principles involved are those of surprise, grasping, balance, and leverage.

Like gun fighting, the key to making these work is to understand them thoroughly and be able to execute them without thinking and always remember that there are no guarantees!
 
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