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I am in the process of enlisting with the Army. My field of training will probably be military police, which means I will do my basic and advanced training at Fort Leonard Wood, in Missouri. My SC permit is valid there, but I was wondering how gun friendly the state is, before I'm deployed. Any information would be appreciated.
 

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MO is fairly friend. However, the Army is not. Do not take any weapons to basic and MP school. The Army will give you the weapons they want you to have during that time.
 

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MO is friendly but an army base is not. Do not carry your personal weapons to an army base and expect to be received with open arms.
 

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Defiantly join us at Missouricarry.com; in the area around Fort "Lost-In-The-Woods" you will find it very gun friendly. The biggest PITA is we still have to go get permission from the local sheriff to purchase a "concealable firearm" (known as a PTA, permit to aquire) but reports from that area are good.

Also just for your information, carry into a posted business is NOT a criminal offense, all that they can do is ask you to leave, if you refuse and the police are called it is a misdemeanor, although you permit can be revoked if you make a habit of it.

St Louis (known as “The Loo” after the English slang for a toilet and Kansas Chitty are the 2 big anti gun areas but your permit is good state wide so $#@^ ‘em, you don’t have to live there and Springfield has the BIG Bass Pro store anyway, so what else do you need?
 

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Old Chief said:
MO is friendly but an army base is not. Do not carry your personal weapons to an army base and expect to be received with open arms.

I wasn't planning on carrying on the base, I was talking about after training and living in the area.
 

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I think it's awesome that you're enlisting.
If I were a younger man, I'd do it too.
One of the things I regret, in my life, is not enlisting.
During the Vietnam War, I almost enlisted in the AF.
Took their tests, etc., but I backed out.
At the time, I thought I was going to be drafted and I was preferring the AF at the time.
 

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I think it's awesome that you're enlisting.
If I were a younger man, I'd do it too.
One of the things I regret, in my life, is not enlisting.
During the Vietnam War, I almost enlisted in the AF.
Took their tests, etc., but I backed out.
At the time, I thought I was going to be drafted and I was preferring the AF at the time.


Thanks for the support, I'm no spring chicken myself. During the first gulf war I took the tests, etc and backed out as well. I'm 36 now and decided a change was in order, I just hope I can make the grade. I'm pretty confident I can, wish me luck.
 

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Missouri is more gun friendly than the media is. It seems the media is real antigun and the slightest thing that happens you will read about it or see it on tv without hearing all the facts.
 

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I'm in MO... and I'm quite gun friendly :)

MO PTA (Permit to Aquire) is a major P(i)TA, we're working on it. Perhaps in a few years it'll be history.

Suppressors are a NO NO here without 'special' status (LEO, SOT, etc), but other NFA items are no problem in most areas (aside from the federal BS regulations, that is).

Fort Leonard Wood puts you in the middle of the state, couple hours from KC or StL, little less to Springfield. Nice area.

As mentioned above, MissouriCarry is a good site for locals, great bunch of people. We have a big to-do comming in September, if you're in the area.

Thanks for your service, and welcome to Missouri!
 

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What makes you think you'll be posted there after training?

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Because it's the only Army MP training facility in the country. Although I guess that doesn't mean they won't deploy me somewhere else I know the military is good at that.
 

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I’d always suggest the AF Cops over the Army Cops, but ether way enjoy your time and best of luck.

Your chances of being posted at Lost in the Woods are probably close to zilch unless that is one of your requests and even then I would not hold my breath.
 

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I’d always suggest the AF Cops over the Army Cops, but ether way enjoy your time and best of luck.

Your chances of being posted at Lost in the Woods are probably close to zilch unless that is one of your requests and even then I would not hold my breath.

From what I've read, it seems that the Army has better benefits, then the AF. I could be wrong, I've talked to quite a few, who were in the service and most of them recommended the Army. Besides, being 36 I can't apply to the AF their cutoff age is 27, Marines, 28, and Navy 34. That being said, my only choice is the Army. I regret that I wasn't mature enough in my younger days to make this decision. The thought has been in the back of my mind since high school, I just never acted. Now that I've "grown" up, I've made the decision, to do what, I feel I should've done a long time ago. I just hope I can hang with the young guys.:image035:
 

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Because it's the only Army MP training facility in the country. Although I guess that doesn't mean they won't deploy me somewhere else I know the military is good at that.
You can bet your last dollar the Army will deploy you somewhere else. That's not only what the military is "good at that", that's what they do. There are 3 kinds of MPs. Those who are getting ready to deploy, those who are deployed, and those who just returned. Expect to do at least 1 tour in Iraq but figure with a 4 yr enlistment you'll most likely do 2 tours. Or you could pull Afghanistan instead. Tours are a year each. You could even do 3 tours. Also understand that if you have a 4 year enlistment doesn't mean your enlistment will automatically end on the date. The military has what's known as stop loss where they can extend your enlistment even without your permission.
If you have a recruiter telling you that you won't be deployed then your recruiter is flat out lying to you. As soon as you complete MP school pack your bags and be prepared for a trip across the pond because that's just the way things are these days.
 

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Ispcapt, thanks for the info, I'm not signing up as an 18 year old. I know that the chances of me being deployed is 99.9% after all we're at war. No offense to anyone here, but I started this thread asking about Missouri's gun acceptance. The only reason I was wondering was, if I choose MP school,(not set in stone yet) what would the mindset of others in the state be. I know I can't carry concealed, I just know in some states people frown on military personnel, because we all know guns kill people. On the other hand after my service, it may be a state I might think about settling down in, with my fiance. I wasn't looking for military advise, just info on the people of MO and the state of MO. Like I said before no offense to anyone and thanks for all your feedback. This thread went a way I didn't want it to go, I'm having a hard enough time deciding exactly what to do without people telling me what I shouldn't do, I'm getting ready to make a drastic change in my life. After all my original question was how gun friendly is MO, not which branch should I sign up for. Again I say this all not trying to offend anyone, I just have alot I my mind right now and the original thread I posted was looking towards the future. Thanks again all. :hand10:
 

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We Missourians are a great people. We'd be proud to have you settle down here after your enlistment. We have excellent hunting and fishing. Our state parks are awesome. Our landscape is diverse..we have miles and miles of farmland North of the Missouri River and miles and miles of wooded areas South of the MO River. We have a rich history in Missouri (It was a Missourian that had the cojones to drop 2 atomic bombs on Japan!) Even if you don't get trained at Ft. Wood, think about settling here anyways.
 

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After reading your post it made me proud to be living in
Mo.
Insane as showme said this is a great state and is full of some of the best people I have ever met.
Mike
 

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As the others have said, stay out of the big cities and you'll find MO is about the most pleasant place to live you can find.

Long guns go by the federal regulations only. (A 4473 and off you go!)

Hand guns take a Permit To Acquire from the sheriff of whatever county you live in, some manage to require a "waiting period", most don't.

Missouri is a "shall issue" state, 22 other states currently recognize MO permits, more should be coming. Businesses can be posted against concealed carry, but they can only ask you to leave ( no criminal charges were written into the law ).

Lots (And I do mean LOTS) of land in the Mark Twain National Forest that you can shoot in.

If you do get the opportunity, Fort Lost-in-the woods has a population of wild pigs that the MO Department of Conservation wants killed out ( don't even need a hunting license for it!)

www.mocarry.org is another great place for info!

Good Luck!
 
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