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I just ran across this article, which I find very depressing. I don’t think things are going to get better anytime soon.

 

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I would not be too surprised to see more of this happening as chiefs get caught between their politician bosses and the public they serve - it's not a good situation for anyone.
 

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Lots more to come.

Too bad for the people of Millersville, MD to lose a good Chief.

Part of his letter:

“I humbly suggest this nation and this state and this county wake up from the nightmare it is creating for itself before the violence gets to a point where we can’t recover."
 

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We have not hit the bottom of the barrel yet but the question is how far until we do? :unsure:
The real question is what will happen when we hit the bottom of the barrel??

I'm old enough to remember the turbulent times of the '60s (1960s that is...). A big difference between then and now is that political leaders on both sides of the isle condemned the violence. Now, Pelosi and her ilk, and other major metro Mayors are refusing to deal with the agitators and trying to appease them.
 

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As police presence and influence decreases, other forces replace it. In the inner cities it will be the gangs. In the 'burbs, it will be the neighborhood watch groups. Out here in the boonies, it will be individuals reacting rather than calling and waiting for 911.

We are already seeing the effects with the upticks in violence in the poorer neighborhoods, where they are shooting each other and anyone who happens to be close by in even greater numbers than before. The power struggles are becoming more and more violent.
 

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Things are not going to get better on their own. It will take all of us who are on the side of the law to let elected officials in our local, state and federal government know what we expect from them. The resigning chief in the article stated it this way:

“By your very silence, you are backing your elected officials into corners where they feel only those seeking to bind the police more tightly have a view. It is not right and they need to hear from you who have faith in your police. The alternative is anarchy and entropy."
 

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Just put a fruitcake in front of your house. No one will come near the place.

Well, me maybe.
 

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In the more remote regions the people will do what they need to do, and will probably stop calling the police altogether. Abandoned vehicles with corpses will start to be a common thing.

The violence could real bad. Mexico bad. The value of life will be clearly shown to be nothing.
 

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Can the officers still use lethal force to protect themselves? Such absolute madness.

What is the end goal of these anarchists? That question was asked in another thread, and I don't know what the answer is. I can't even see any way that these actions could serve to benefit and keep someone in power.
 

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What is the end goal of these anarchists? That question was asked in another thread, and I don't know what the answer is. I can't even see any way that these actions could serve to benefit and keep someone in power.
The end goal is socialism, or communism, or a "new world order," or whatever you care to call it.
 

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I think one thing that is holding good people back from defending against this violence is the fear of prosecution. If we descend to a point where municipalities no longer have the ability to prosecute cases like the McCloskys, even though the socialists may want to, then the gloves come off. Then it is going to get ugly and bloody. I pray we never get there. Unfortunately, that may be the only chance we have of stopping this madness. And it will come at a very high cost.
 

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We have not hit the bottom of the barrel yet but the question is how far until we do? :unsure:
It's a pretty deep barrel with a lot hidden obstacles on the way down!
 
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My thoughts:
  • Despite what the media would have you believe, there is a lot more of this country that has not been affected by all this than than has been affected. I have seen nothing in Chesterfield County, VA except on the news. My SIL in St. Louis County and my BIL in Overland Park, KS have not witnessed a single thing. Look at the places where the biggest disruptions are taking place: Minneapolis, Detroit, Seattle, Portland. As far as I am concerned, those were crime-ridden liberal crap holes to begin with. These protests have been a lot less successful in decent areas, for the most part.
  • I think the pandemic is a factor, too many people out of work and out of school with travel restrictions and cabin fever. I don't think it's fair to quip that "none of these people have jobs anyway." With the numbers we are seeing, I will bet a lot of them are workers and students. It's all they have to do this Summer. I think politicians increasing COVID restrictions are partially enabling a lot of this. The point is, that can't keep going forever.
  • Some recent polls have shown that from 6 - 10% of the adult population has participated in at least one protest event over the Floyd thing. That means the number of committed, violent anarchists is much lower than that. Yes, we are still talking about a significant amount of people in any one spot, but a small minority, percentage wise, of the total population.
  • Just as in physical actions, every social action has a reaction. The pendulum swings. I can already see some backlash against this and I think it will continue. The silent majority is looking into the abyss and does not like what it sees. They don't want their lifestyles upended. There will be consequences.
  • Finally, I think a lot of this is about the election. No matter which way it goes in Nov., the current tactics will have outlived their usefulness. Yeah, I can see a week or so of increased unrest if Trump gets elected, but it will burn out or be put down. If Biden gets elected, I think we will see some more of this stuff, but at a much reduced level.
 

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All the current unrest is just rough spot in the road that we'll get past in the coming months.

And for those of us with lucid memories of the riots in the 60s, this is like playing patty-cakes in comparison. Don't let blabbering politicians and over-hyping media get you all out of sorts.

We're gonna be OK. Especially when this damn C19 loosens its grip, which should be in the next year when a vaccine becomes widely available.
 

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All the current unrest is just rough spot in the road that we'll get past in the coming months.

And for those of us with lucid memories of the riots in the 60s, this is like playing patty-cakes in comparison. Don't let blabbering politicians and over-hyping media get you all out of sorts.

We're gonna be OK. Especially when this damn C19 loosens its grip, which should be just after the election.
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All the current unrest is just rough spot in the road that we'll get past in the coming months.

And for those of us with lucid memories of the riots in the 60s, this is like playing patty-cakes in comparison. Don't let blabbering politicians and over-hyping media get you all out of sorts.

We're gonna be OK. Especially when this damn C19 loosens its grip, which should be in the next year when a vaccine becomes widely available.
IF Trump wins, we'll eventually be ok...that depends on whether we keep the Senate. If we don't, they'll impeach him and win this time. Then they'll impeach Pence. Their anger will be unstoppable.

If Biden wins, we will not be ok and we might never be ok again.

I used to be an optimistic person but these past few months have shown me just how vulnerable our country is.
 

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As police presence and influence decreases, other forces replace it. In the inner cities it will be the gangs. In the 'burbs, it will be the neighborhood watch groups. Out here in the boonies, it will be individuals reacting rather than calling and waiting for 911.

We are already seeing the effects with the upticks in violence in the poorer neighborhoods, where they are shooting each other and anyone who happens to be close by in even greater numbers than before. The power struggles are becoming more and more violent.
Nature abhors a vacuum!
 
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