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All the current unrest is just rough spot in the road that we'll get past in the coming months.

And for those of us with lucid memories of the riots in the 60s, this is like playing patty-cakes in comparison. Don't let blabbering politicians and over-hyping media get you all out of sorts.

We're gonna be OK. Especially when this damn C19 loosens its grip, which should be in the next year when a vaccine becomes widely available.
I was a teenager in the 60s. Yes, we had civil rights demonstrations and protests against the war, but we didn't have anything that went on for months. We didn't have people calling for the defunding the police and dismantling of police departments. We didn't have police and civilians being beaten and killed. We didn't have major corporations donating money to a Marxist organization. We didn't have a major political party that is openly communist and wants to do away with America as we know it. The closest thing we've had were the riots following the Rodney King verdict.

This is a whole different situation.
 

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I was a teenager in the 60s. Yes, we had civil rights demonstrations and protests against the war, but we didn't have anything that went on for months. We didn't have people calling for the defunding the police and dismantling of police departments. We didn't have police and civilians being beaten and killed. We didn't have major corporations donating money to a Marxist organization. We didn't have a major political party that is openly communist and wants to do away with America as we know it. The closest thing we've had were the riots following the Rodney King verdict.

This is a whole different situation.
Oh I don’t know, I tend to agree wit TX Red. We the Weather Underground robbing banks and killing cops. There was quite a bit of that going on with various groups. SLA comes to mind too. Black Panthers have been renamed BLM (and taken over by angry white chicks! 😂)

I think todays rioters are more organized via social media and they now have sympathizers in the mayor’s office and governor’s mansions to hold the cops back. When they start bombing and robbing banks, kidnapping rich kids then I’ll think it’s worse.
 

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CWOUSCG, the Weather Underground, the SLA, and the Black Panthers were all relatively small groups that did not have protest/riots going on in multiple cities. They did not take over whole areas of cities for weeks or months at a time. Sorry, but I disagree.
 
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Aren’t you from SoCal? Watts comes to mind, there were many many more race riots all over the country.
 

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Aren’t you from SoCal? Watts comes to mind, there were many many more race riots all over the country.
Yes, I moved from SoCal to Utah after living in SoCal for the biggest chunk of my life.. Yes, the Watts riots were bad. They lasted for four days. Yes, there were race riots in other parts of the country. Here's an article from Wikipedia (the source of all knowledge - gag!) that says there were 159 riots in 1967 (I don't know how accurate that number is - and I tend to distrust Wikipedia since they are left leaning). A few others are listed as lasting for 5 days. I don't think the mayors of any of the cities where these events took place told the police to stand down, or that they could not use tear gas, etc.
 

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...and we cannot forget Jane Fonda (gag), that old haint was another anti American person, she was just as bad as what is happening now - once again idiot movie stars think they know better

I think it was pretty bad back in the 60’s. I’m remembering the Patty Hurst deal too, some crazy folks back then!


(@G26Raven this is not directed at you, just at that time and place - I was young but alive then and remember and what I remember is some pretty wicket folks in the CA area but I was on the other side of the states).
 

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...and we cannot forget Jane Fonda (gag), that old haint was another anti American person, she was just as bad as what is happening now - once again idiot movie stars think they know better

I think it was pretty bad back in the 60’s. I’m remembering the Patty Hurst deal too, some crazy folks back then!

(@G26Raven this is not directed at you, just at that time and place - I was young but alive then and remember and what I remember is some pretty wicket folks in the CA area but I was on the other side of the states).
It was bad in the 60s, no denying that. I just think it's a lot worse today. Again, Patty Hearst and the SLA were a pretty small group. And, the rumor in California is that Patty Hearst was being hidden at Hearst Castle on the Central Coast. One of the guys who used to help me teach scuba had a sister who was in the SLA and he actually wrote a book about it.

 

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I think it's worse today, partly because of the internet and Liberal media. 24/7 news cycles that keep things stirred up. Back in the 60's we had the nightly news for half an hour or so and it was more facts vs agenda driven.

The 60's saw a lot of turmoil, no doubt about it. However, we weren't so divided as a country IMO. Maybe it's because I was a teenager in the 60's and it was worse than I remember it being. From my present perspective, today is worse. We were moving forward with race relations too. Now, it seems as if we're moving backwards.
 

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Getting better? I don't see it happening. Every echelon of government has been subverted by Socialists/Democrats.

Let's not forget that Obama installed over 300 "czars" when he was in office that were hardcore Muslims.

BML/ANTIFA and those idiots that call themselves NFAC are all funded by the same people...and those people are also funding the Muslim Brotherhood.

Just yesterday the NFL donated 250,000,000 to BLM.

They all have a plan to take America out. They are well organized and well funded. On their side is the entire news media that also happens to be owned by a handful of Socialists with agenda.

Many of the Mayors of big cities are socialist. Need proof? An opposing army of terrorists took over several city blocks, installed borders, and put armed guards behind each barricade.
What did the mayor do? Sent them porta-potties and pallets of water.

It's been stated that 40 of 50 Governors have sold out to Globalism...a fancy word for One World Government.

My own Governor is in so tight with the Chinese that it's been noticed by the President that publicly stated that so many of our Governors are being paid by the Chinese that something needs to be done.

Polls show that 45-50 % of people under 40 SUPPORT socialism...because that's what they have been taught in publicly funded schools.

While many people say it can't happen here or downplay the fact that 60 cities have sustained major damage to due riots, arson, and idiots that think it's ok to rape plunder and pillage, small-town America is arming itself to the teeth, complete with guns, ammo, armor and communication equipment. Guns and ammo are getting hard to get and they are getting more expensive.

10-12 week delays on body armor is standard now.
Radios are flying off the shelves. People all over Arkansas are joining various militia groups that are popping up all over the place.

My own county has an estimated 8000+ militia. With a population of 51,000 people in it.
That's one county in Arkansas in the Ozarks. There are many more throughout the state.

A rough spot in the road? I wish.

The socialist/Marxists are playing the long game and they don't even bother trying to hide it anymore. They are looking at the goalposts. They have been organized and well funded for years. The people that love this country are just now getting started and they are way behind.

I know I speak from a different perspective than many as we have folks from every state here, but make no mistake.

These people have every intention of killing those that stand in the way.
 

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I didn’t mean SoCal as a jab at you, just as a point of reference.

Look, we had a funeral this week for JohnLewis who got the crap knocked out of him by the cops on numerous occasions. We had civil rights workers murdered, churches bombed - not fireworked!, people were lynched, homes destroyed. We’re not close to that. Yet.
 

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Getting better? I don't see it happening. Every echelon of government has been subverted by Socialists/Democrats.

Let's not forget that Obama installed over 300 "czars" when he was in office that were hardcore Muslims.

BML/ANTIFA and those idiots that call themselves NFAC are all funded by the same people...and those people are also funding the Muslim Brotherhood.

Just yesterday the NFL donated 250,000,000 to BLM.

They all have a plan to take America out. They are well organized and well funded. On their side is the entire news media that also happens to be owned by a handful of Socialists with agenda.

Many of the Mayors of big cities are socialist. Need proof? An opposing army of terrorists took over several city blocks, installed borders, and put armed guards behind each barricade.
What did the mayor do? Sent them porta-potties and pallets of water.

It's been stated that 40 of 50 Governors have sold out to Globalism...a fancy word for One World Government.

My own Governor is in so tight with the Chinese that it's been noticed by the President that publicly stated that so many of our Governors are being paid by the Chinese that something needs to be done.

Polls show that 45-50 % of people under 40 SUPPORT socialism...because that's what they have been taught in publicly funded schools.

While many people say it can't happen here or downplay the fact that 60 cities have sustained major damage to due riots, arson, and idiots that think it's ok to rape plunder and pillage, small-town America is arming itself to the teeth, complete with guns, ammo, armor and communication equipment. Guns and ammo are getting hard to get and they are getting more expensive.

10-12 week delays on body armor is standard now.
Radios are flying off the shelves. People all over Arkansas are joining various militia groups that are popping up all over the place.

My own county has an estimated 8000+ militia. With a population of 51,000 people in it.
That's one county in Arkansas in the Ozarks. There are many more throughout the state.

A rough spot in the road? I wish.

The socialist/Marxists are playing the long game and they don't even bother trying to hide it anymore. They are looking at the goalposts. They have been organized and well funded for years. The people that love this country are just now getting started and they are way behind.

I know I speak from a different perspective than many as we have folks from every state here, but make no mistake.

These people have every intention of killing those that stand in the way.
Well Sir, much as I hate the words in your post I also happen to agree. There is no "going back to normal" now. Its going to be a very rough winter in 20/21.
Wyoming will not be a welcome place for the Marxists when they come.
 

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CWOUSCG, no offense taken. But my thinking is entirely in line with Hotguns post on this page. I think things are much worse.

I was with a friend today who equally believes things are getting very bad. There is no place to "bug out" to, no place to go, and the only thing people will be able to do is for like minded folks to stick together. We foresee people from Las Vegas and SoCal heading this way to get out of the big cities. If Trump wins again I think things may get bad enough that he will have to impose martial law. If he loses, I probably won't survive too long because I am just way too outspoken.
 

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I didn’t mean SoCal as a jab at you, just as a point of reference.

Look, we had a funeral this week for JohnLewis who got the crap knocked out of him by the cops on numerous occasions. We had civil rights workers murdered, churches bombed - not fireworked!, people were lynched, homes destroyed. We’re not close to that. Yet.
We've had all those things happen in the past few months, just different victims and no lynchings...now it's handguns and firebombing business and government buildings.
 

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In 1968 I was at Ft. Bliss, TX. The army suspended our training, gave us M1 .30cal carbines with bayonets and we trained riot control for several weeks. Imagine the old gas mask (M51?) and half stepping in a wedge formation in the Texas heat. They had Dusters (twin 40mm cannons, track vehicle) loaded on aircraft and we were ready to go at a moments notice. Wonder what they're doing right now...
 

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We've had all those things happen in the past few months, just different victims and no lynchings...now it's handguns and firebombing business and government buildings.
you forgot the knifings in the schools , and it was both sides left for se Asia with that going on returned to postal workers shooting up sorting facilities went back to school went back to dea for 1980 riots in miami drug shootouts book-ended with 1989 all i want now is a defendable patch and my 50bmg
 

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you forgot the knifings in the schools , and it was both sides left for se Asia with that going on returned to postal workers shooting up sorting facilities went back to school went back to dea for 1980 riots in miami drug shootouts book-ended with 1989 all i want now is a defendable patch and my 50bmg
Well Sir, much as I hate the words in your post I also happen to agree. There is no "going back to normal" now. Its going to be a very rough winter in 20/21.
Wyoming will not be a welcome place for the Marxists when they come.
I find this article intriguing.
https://larryalextaunton.com/2020/07/understanding-what-is-happening-in-america-a-christian-response/
 

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IF Trump wins, we'll eventually be ok...that depends on whether we keep the Senate. If we don't, they'll impeach him and win this time. Then they'll impeach Pence. Their anger will be unstoppable.

If Biden wins, we will not be ok and we might never be ok again.

I used to be an optimistic person but these past few months have shown me just how vulnerable our country is.
If they Impeach Trump AND Pence then you have Pelosi...Can`t let that happen!!!!!!.
 

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Our forum members are intelligent, have much common sense, & a keen ability to imagine potential scenarios.
So....my only comment will be a short & simple one.
"There is a perfect storm that has already begun brewing."
 

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Our forum members are intelligent, have much common sense, & a keen ability to imagine potential scenarios.
So....my only comment will be a short & simple one.
"There is a perfect storm that has already begun brewing."
I think the other side is gonna need a bigger boat when all the patriots come out in force.
You can only push a good man so far
 

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I think the other side is gonna need a bigger boat when all the patriots come out in force.
You can only push a good man so far
You know, I was just thinking about the same thing. Despite their vocal protests and riots, there really are not as many of them (violent radical leftists) who are going to be willing to put the pedal to the metal if things get truly bad. The big unknown is how many deep state actors are in key positions in the military and law enforcement.
 
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