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:aargh4:What a horrible feeling to find that someone has violated your personal space and stolen something of value. I feel sick. My favorite skis were stolen from the inside of my SUV.

Yes, I did make some mistakes so please don't bash me about them as I am fully aware of the stupidity. It was a crime of opportunity, an opportunity that I clearly provided. I'll smack myself :spankme:

I had the day off yesterday, so as I do anytime I have the opportunity I go skiing. That's why I live where I do. The plan was for me to ski in the morning and be back by noon to watch my son while my wife went out for a couple of runs. In my haste to get her out of the house and onto the mountain I came home and ran inside to hang out with the little guy. I left all of my equipment in my 4Runner and I obviously did not lock it as all of my windows are still there. I am usually very good at taking my equipment out, putting in my garage and making sure my vehicle is locked. We went to have dinner with some friends around 5pm and took our other vehicle. We came home around 8pm and again did not even think to check the 4Runner. So....this either happened while I was out to dinner between 5-8pm...OR it happened between 8pm - Midnight. The 8 to midnight possibility is the part that makes me sick...I was home. BTW..I know it wasnt' after midnight because that's when it started snowing...and we had no tracks in the driveway this morning.

If I'm going to find humor in any of this...here it is. I discovered my skis were missing this morning because I had left my belt in my ski bag (also in my car and not stolen) and couldn't put my holster on without it. Found out I had been robbed while arming myself....I guess that's not so humorous now that I read it back.:comeandgetsome:

I really got screwed. Why? Because not even insurance can make me whole. $1,200 retail & replacement cost. My friend is a coach for the US Freestyle Ski Team and he hooked me up with a pro deal for these skis. I paid $400 for skis and bindings. The deal he gave me was perceivably worth an $800 retail discount...I can't replace that deal. Screwed right?:dead:

So my question for all of you is.... What would you have done in the following scenarios?

1. You come home from dinner and find a guy in the back of your vehicle. Do you confront him? Drive off and call the cops? Last night I would have had to keep moving...had the baby and wife in the car. Armed...but with family and I don't want to put them in danger.

2. You look outside and see this same guy stealing your $1,200 pair of skis. Again, Confront or call the cops and hope they get there in time? I'm always armed....but family is safely inside home. No...it would not have been my XD9sc...Remy 870 would have accompanied me.

Live and learn.

EDIT: I should have mentioned that they ONLY took my skis. Left my poles, sunglasses and my ski bag (which had a very expensive pair of custom boots, expensive goggles, gloves...anyway...a bunch of valuable stuff).
 

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People always say to stay inside and call the police. But I'd have a really REALLY hard time not intervening.
 

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People always say to stay inside and call the police. But I'd have a really REALLY hard time not intervening.

YEP^^^^^^^



Don't you have replacement cost on your stuff.???


Ie; if you paid $400 for something X amt. of years ago, they will replace it at todays replacement cost

"If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun."
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Depends upon the state you live in...first and foremost, but then not many people are having skis stolen in TX.:image035:

There is certainly nothing illegal about going out to one's car, and upon seeing someone in your vehicle...ordering them to cease and desist from taking your stuff. If they run away, great, but if they threaten you, then you must decide if it is a serious threat...:image035::image035:

I have every legal right to be in my home, in my vehicle, and on my property here in FL...if you threaten me is such places, I have no duty to retreat...I'm just sayin'..:rolleyes:
 

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In SC you can "cause the perp a moment of anguish and pain over his circumstances"--he is on and in your property and frightening your well-being and causing you to think about your possible imminent bodily injury or worse, once he is done with your car. Castle Doctrine rules. Personally, if I am in my house and look out my above comments hold true but I would call LEO, thnk about my car insurance and NOT go look for trouble by going outside and confronting him--he may be better armed and better at all this kind of thing than I and I do feel that my life is worth more than my skis and even my car. If I am coming home and I meet up with him as he is "examining my belongings" and I am CC, I would "introduce myself" to him and would stand my ground.
 

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Don't you have replacement cost on your stuff.???


Ie; if you paid $400 for something X amt. of years ago, they will replace it at todays replacement cost
I don't know? I've been lucky enough to have never filed a claim. I would be happy if that were the case.

Ret..you'd be surprised how many of my clients and people I meet on the lifts are from TX. Not all are big hat no skis:danceban:
 

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Just took your skis. Some BG knows his ski brands huh?

Maybe a neighbor or business nearby has a security camera that might have caught something? Did you call the police and make a report? Do skis have serial numbers........ I guess the pricey ones would?

Good luck and I hope things work out for you. I hate a low-down thief :mad:
 

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Depends upon the state you live in...first and foremost, but then not many people are having skis stolen in TX.:image035:

There is certainly nothing illegal about going out to one's car, and upon seeing someone in your vehicle...ordering them to cease and desist from taking your stuff. If they run away, great, but if they threaten you, then you must decide if it is a serious threat...:image035::image035:

I have every legal right to be in my home, in my vehicle, and on my property here in FL...if you threaten me is such places, I have no duty to retreat...I'm just sayin'..:rolleyes:
I agree, but you can't use deadly force to protect property, just life.
 

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That sucks. If I caught someone trying to steal my snowboard out of the back of my truck on my property here in TX, I'd hold them at gunpoint at the very least...if I'm feeling nice that day.
 

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I agree, but you can't use deadly force to protect property, just life.
Depends on the state. In TX, I have every right to defend my property, and I will.
 

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The title threw me off... were you robbed or was your car burglarized?

1) I would confront with my hand on my gun (Still holstered)... chances are that he has seen me if I am driving up to my house...

2) Be a good witness and stay inside and call the cops...
 

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People always say to stay inside and call the police. But I'd have a really REALLY hard time not intervening.
That's the same folks that told everyone if their airplane was hijacked to sit quietly and cooperate.

I'ld have a definite discussion with the fella... in my car....
 

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The title threw me off... were you robbed or was your car burglarized?
Me too. The car was definitely burgled.

I would confront. That doesn't mean I have to threaten the life of a burglar, but I wouldn't let my vehicle be rummaged. All things being equal, I'd most likely put a light on him from a safe distance with some choice words thrown in. How he responds and whether a weapon of any sort is observed could up the ante considerably. To allow the thief free reign encourages the criminal to come back at a later date for another easy payoff IMO, and perhaps next time it won't be limited to the car.
 

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So my question for all of you is.... What would you have done in the following scenarios?

1. You come home from dinner and find a guy in the back of your vehicle. Do you confront him? Drive off and call the cops? Last night I would have had to keep moving...had the baby and wife in the car. Armed...but with family and I don't want to put them in danger.
_I call 9-1-1 quickly to let them know whats going on, and get LEOs enroute. Then likely I will confront the guy to avoid having to replace my equiptment. As you say, you could not replace what you lost.

_If family is in the car I'd likely just call the cops. I would drop the family off at a neighbors home, and follow the individual discreetly giving cops blow by blow directions of where the culprit is.

2. You look outside and see this same guy stealing your $1,200 pair of skis. Again, Confront or call the cops and hope they get there in time? I'm always armed....but family is safely inside home. No...it would not have been my XD9sc...Remy 870 would have accompanied me.
I believe that I would have had my G26 on hip & my 12 gauge Shotty in hand as I went out and got the drop on this guy. I would have instructed my wife to call the cops and give them my description and that of the BG to the best we could see from the house. This way the cops have some idea of who the BG is if they arrive while we are engaged in battle of some sort. If things go the way I expect, the BG is laying at my feet dead in the middle of my driveway.

Is taking a picture of the BG and posting it on here afterwards illegal? :smile:
 

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Aw man what a bummer! That was a great idea about seeing if anyone in your neighborhood had a home security vid going at the time. Logically here, one of two likely things and one long shot IMO: I would probably guess that because they were skis, they were probably in a vehicle. (Skis aren't too descretely taken and marched down the road.) Maybe one of your neighbors could recall a car near your home around that time. Another likely thing would seem to be that it was someone in your neighborhood that saw you load them up and noticed that you had left them in there. They wouldn't have had too far to go in the dark to get them home if they were on foot. Least likely would be someone not living in your neighborhood and on foot. I would keep checking up on Ebay from time to time. Good Luck! :mad:
 

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Snowman, are you sure you're not getting 'punked'.

Ski's get stolen right before Xmas? While you are at dinner?

And there the only thing stolen?
 

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The title threw me off... were you robbed or was your car burglarized?
Me too. The car was definitely burgled......
Actually it's neither. It's considered larceny. In this case grand larceny because of the value of the property.

Terminology aside, it doesn't lessen the impact of the crime. Hope you can recover from it.
 

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Well, You have every legal right to confront them and tell them to stop stealing from you. if they make an awkward move, you then can say " I felt my life was in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm".


I can't see any state law saying you can't ask someone to STOP from damaging your property or telling them to stop from stealing from you.
 

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Thanks for all the great advice. Robbed, burgled, larceny...It still sucks.

I have checked with all of the neighbors and nobody saw anything. This is NOT uncommon where I live....a SKI RESORT. So there are many thieves here that do in fact target just skis & snowboards. Unfortunately no businesses nearby as I live in a neighborhood with nice single family homes....nobody runs cameras around either. This is a different world I live in....I deal with $1M - $20M homes daily...most of those don't even have security systems. So most residents truly do have a false sense of security.

It was only my favorite pair of skis...probably one of the more expensive pairs. I do have 2 other pairs... At least they didn't take my powder skis...2 feet of fresh this morning.

I hope I'm getting punk'd...But it seems unlikely that my family would steal my skis to have them tuned.
 

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Thanks for all the great advice. Robbed, burgled, larceny...It still sucks.

I have checked with all of the neighbors and nobody saw anything. This is NOT uncommon where I live....a SKI RESORT. So there are many thieves here that do in fact target just skis & snowboards. Unfortunately no businesses nearby as I live in a neighborhood with nice single family homes....nobody runs cameras around either. This is a different world I live in....I deal with $1M - $20M homes daily...most of those don't even have security systems. So most residents truly do have a false sense of security.

It was only my favorite pair of skis...probably one of the more expensive pairs. I do have 2 other pairs... At least they didn't take my powder skis...2 feet of fresh this morning.

I hope I'm getting punk'd...But it seems unlikely that my family would steal my skis to have them tuned.
Check the Pawn shops.....most thieves steal things for quick cash...pawn shop is where they usually go.
 
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