I don't think I'd recommend that video to a friend .
If someone is trying to kick down the door?
I got a free training video that tells what to do if somebody is trying to kick down your door. He states that the first thing is to try to escape. Maybe run to another room or out the back door. Then barricade between yourself and the intruder. Then arm yourself with anything handy or a weapon that you keep handy for defense. Then communicate - call 911 and if the intruder has figured out where you are warn them that you are armed. I quit watching after that because I didn't want to receive any more bad advice.
In the first place I don't intend to run into danger by running somewhere that I don't know is any longer safe. I might step around a corner or into a nook without a door where I can see both towards the front and back of the house. I have a pantry like that between the kitchen and the dining room where I can step in there and watch for somebody to come into my field of vision. If I only have enough time I might stay quietly where I am. I will be armed so that is taken care of. I guess I need my cell phone to call 911 and my tact light too just in case I need to blind somebody as a warning. But if it takes any longer than a second to find the light and phone I am not going to worry about them during a bad situation. I don't intend to be giving away my location by talking on a phone or calling out to somebody who is prowling around in my house.
Like I said I might blind them with my tact light if I think that I could do that safely but if there is a chance that they are armed they can be warned by looking down the barrel of my gun or at my laser sight pointed at them.
For some reason when I think of somebody breaking into a house any more I always think of more than one person could be involved and I don't think the instructor who made that video took that into consideration along with a lot of other factors. Maybe there is some reason why an instructor would tend to give all of the advantages to an intruder but I figure that I want them to have problems from the time they break in until they leave -however they leave.
In the first place I don't intend to run into danger by running somewhere that I don't know is any longer safe. I might step around a corner or into a nook without a door where I can see both towards the front and back of the house. I have a pantry like that between the kitchen and the dining room where I can step in there and watch for somebody to come into my field of vision. If I only have enough time I might stay quietly where I am. I will be armed so that is taken care of. I guess I need my cell phone to call 911 and my tact light too just in case I need to blind somebody as a warning. But if it takes any longer than a second to find the light and phone I am not going to worry about them during a bad situation. I don't intend to be giving away my location by talking on a phone or calling out to somebody who is prowling around in my house.
Like I said I might blind them with my tact light if I think that I could do that safely but if there is a chance that they are armed they can be warned by looking down the barrel of my gun or at my laser sight pointed at them.
For some reason when I think of somebody breaking into a house any more I always think of more than one person could be involved and I don't think the instructor who made that video took that into consideration along with a lot of other factors. Maybe there is some reason why an instructor would tend to give all of the advantages to an intruder but I figure that I want them to have problems from the time they break in until they leave -however they leave.
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I don't claim to have any training in this area, just an opinion.
It's really a judgement call that has to be made in the split of a second. Likely, you will have very little information to base that judgement call on.
If there is a sense of multiple intruders at the door, I've seen 3 and 4 home invaders on various you tube videos, then if there is an option to escape out a back window that's probably the better choice - unless of course you are a wanted man, have a hit ordered on you etc. Yea, you don't know if there is someone in the back waiting but in my judgement that's better than dealing with 3 or 4 potentially vicious on drugs low lives with nothing to loose.
But if your instincts tell you there's a single nut job at the door, who starts out with a knock then escalates to a bang and the a pounding and finally a kicking in of the door, I would probably hang tight in the house for the same reason I think you would - safety. I would be at an off angle to the door and the second he steps inside my home I would drop him.
I had a home invader many years ago before I was self aware, and thankfully it was resolved without violence. But I remember the fear penetrating me and near panic I felt. Last year at 2 am my house alarm indicated an intruder at the back door and I am proud to say my wife and I did our defense very well, with me covering the hallway (or kill zone), and her on the phone with 911. I was very much in control. . 30 years of maturity from the last time helps with that. (Thankfully, this one turned out to be an alarm failure...)
But if I thought there was a team of crazies at the front door who just targeted my house just because, I would be out the back window with my wife and my best friend Ruger.
Just my 2 cents!
It's really a judgement call that has to be made in the split of a second. Likely, you will have very little information to base that judgement call on.
If there is a sense of multiple intruders at the door, I've seen 3 and 4 home invaders on various you tube videos, then if there is an option to escape out a back window that's probably the better choice - unless of course you are a wanted man, have a hit ordered on you etc. Yea, you don't know if there is someone in the back waiting but in my judgement that's better than dealing with 3 or 4 potentially vicious on drugs low lives with nothing to loose.
But if your instincts tell you there's a single nut job at the door, who starts out with a knock then escalates to a bang and the a pounding and finally a kicking in of the door, I would probably hang tight in the house for the same reason I think you would - safety. I would be at an off angle to the door and the second he steps inside my home I would drop him.
I had a home invader many years ago before I was self aware, and thankfully it was resolved without violence. But I remember the fear penetrating me and near panic I felt. Last year at 2 am my house alarm indicated an intruder at the back door and I am proud to say my wife and I did our defense very well, with me covering the hallway (or kill zone), and her on the phone with 911. I was very much in control. . 30 years of maturity from the last time helps with that. (Thankfully, this one turned out to be an alarm failure...)
But if I thought there was a team of crazies at the front door who just targeted my house just because, I would be out the back window with my wife and my best friend Ruger.
Just my 2 cents!
All ready on the left...All ready on the right...
My simple opinion? Don't expect a lot of quality from...free stuff. :blink:I got a free training video...because I didn't want to receive any more bad advice...
I think you got what you paid for.
Unlike most "Training Videos" today you got out of it what you paid for it. There are lots of cool projects online using unwanted CDs/DVDs.I got a free training video that tells what to do if somebody is trying to kick down your door. He states that the first thing is to try to escape. Maybe run to another room or out the back door. Then barricade between yourself and the intruder. Then arm yourself with anything handy or a weapon that you keep handy for defense. Then communicate - call 911 and if the intruder has figured out where you are warn them that you are armed. I quit watching after that because I didn't want to receive any more bad advice.
In the first place I don't intend to run into danger by running somewhere that I don't know is any longer safe. I might step around a corner or into a nook without a door where I can see both towards the front and back of the house. I have a pantry like that between the kitchen and the dining room where I can step in there and watch for somebody to come into my field of vision. If I only have enough time I might stay quietly where I am. I will be armed so that is taken care of. I guess I need my cell phone to call 911 and my tact light too just in case I need to blind somebody as a warning. But if it takes any longer than a second to find the light and phone I am not going to worry about them during a bad situation. I don't intend to be giving away my location by talking on a phone or calling out to somebody who is prowling around in my house.
Like I said I might blind them with my tact light if I think that I could do that safely but if there is a chance that they are armed they can be warned by looking down the barrel of my gun or at my laser sight pointed at them.
For some reason when I think of somebody breaking into a house any more I always think of more than one person could be involved and I don't think the instructor who made that video took that into consideration along with a lot of other factors. Maybe there is some reason why an instructor would tend to give all of the advantages to an intruder but I figure that I want them to have problems from the time they break in until they leave -however they leave.
Know your state laws. MN requires you to vacate if you can safely. Retreat to a safe room, barricade, out a window if safe. Don't go out the door being kicked. I might trip over a body .
this is the same junk my company teaches in our yearly "workplace violence" training... run, hide, fight as last resort with improvised weapons... every building littered with "no guns or knives" signs... people have been written up just for having a knife to cut a cake with before.have you seen this one?
My house would be horrible to try and defend! It has nice strong doors but they are surrounded by glass . There are large glass windows all the way around. it also has a wrap around porch so that once they are broken you only need to step through, not even climb through. the good thing is I live in the country where someone would have to get passed all the animals to get up near the house. Thats our early warning system.
Now "If" someone was kicking my door I can see them easily, and if it's dark inside they can't see me. I can easily ID whoever is out there. I can also turn on porch lights all the way around without getting near the doors. My porch lights illuminate out 30 yards so I get a good look at what's going on. If I don't see red or blue lights flashing, whoever breaks through that door is a BG and will be dealt with as such! DR
Now "If" someone was kicking my door I can see them easily, and if it's dark inside they can't see me. I can easily ID whoever is out there. I can also turn on porch lights all the way around without getting near the doors. My porch lights illuminate out 30 yards so I get a good look at what's going on. If I don't see red or blue lights flashing, whoever breaks through that door is a BG and will be dealt with as such! DR
With the layout of our house, this is pretty much the case.All ready on the left...All ready on the right...
Front door would be in a 45°, 12g, 00 cross fire with our dog ready to go for the groin.
I still prefer my compound bow. If it can pass thru a deer, it can pass thru a man. No neighbors calling about gunshots. Just a missing person report.
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I'd step out on to the porch and fire both barrels. That will do the trick.
Ditto. New place with lots of glass and big porches. I've added cameras, outside floods at all 4 corners, dog inside, guinea fowl outside so hopefully I'll get some warning.My house would be horrible to try and defend! It has nice strong doors but they are surrounded by glass . There are large glass windows all the way around. it also has a wrap around porch so that once they are broken you only need to step through, not even climb through. the good thing is I live in the country where someone would have to get passed all the animals to get up near the house. Thats our early warning system.
Now "If" someone was kicking my door I can see them easily, and if it's dark inside they can't see me. I can easily ID whoever is out there. I can also turn on porch lights all the way around without getting near the doors. My porch lights illuminate out 30 yards so I get a good look at what's going on. If I don't see red or blue lights flashing, whoever breaks through that door is a BG and will be dealt with as such! DR
Like may well-meaning folks here, you start out by asking a question when in truth the stuff has already hit the fan. You are nearly in a kill-zone with almost no options.
Why do you ask this question when you probably know the answer.
If you really believe it's possible that you might be facing this scenario (and I realize you're reacting, OP to a training video), then you need to react LONG before it gets to this. You need to be prepared, you need to have built a layered defense, you need to be carrying inside the home and you could construct some kind of rudimentary safe-room that is 'bullet resistant' to which you can retreat.
I would NOT shoot through the door. I would try to work as a team with your family and spouse. I would have lights and a reinforced door. I would think about a place that's safe to retreat and defend in place.
Good luck and remember, most of those videos are made by people who have done a lot of training but have spent little time actually getting experience. React early.
Why do you ask this question when you probably know the answer.
If you really believe it's possible that you might be facing this scenario (and I realize you're reacting, OP to a training video), then you need to react LONG before it gets to this. You need to be prepared, you need to have built a layered defense, you need to be carrying inside the home and you could construct some kind of rudimentary safe-room that is 'bullet resistant' to which you can retreat.
I would NOT shoot through the door. I would try to work as a team with your family and spouse. I would have lights and a reinforced door. I would think about a place that's safe to retreat and defend in place.
Good luck and remember, most of those videos are made by people who have done a lot of training but have spent little time actually getting experience. React early.
I agree with the gunny. It's a Marine thing I guess
I saw this Rob Pincus video the other day and it sounds similar to the OP's. I think given enough time you could have some options, but when the SHTF those options might not be feasible.
Breaking down the door show a significant degree of intent to harm, However I would recommend restraint at least until they make entry then all bets are off. In short don't shoot through the door wait til opens and you can see and identify the target.
Things happen fast if you have time to gather and consolidate your family to a predetermined safest location then do so, You can give yourself more time or perhaps negate the need altogether by installing a kick proof device like a doordevil.
www.doordevil.com
Things happen fast if you have time to gather and consolidate your family to a predetermined safest location then do so, You can give yourself more time or perhaps negate the need altogether by installing a kick proof device like a doordevil.
www.doordevil.com
Anyone pounding on my door and attempting to kick it in is a threat in my opinion. The dogs would be barking and giving enough warning to scare any sane minded person away. If they continue and do make entry the fight is on. Two 85lb Shepherds that have good fight drive can make for a bad night for an intruder. Myself I am tucked away with the Benelli Tactical giving me a clear line of fire at the door just in case the dogs need some assistance. :smile:
Well if he kicking my door down he better hope the cops show up first
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