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In Cop Talk by Massad Ayoob, in the 2005 September/October American handgunner, Mas is promoting the Cominolli safety for Glocks. To see if the safety slows down the draw-to-fire time, he and a couple of buddies timed themselves with a stock Glock and a Glock with the Cominolli safety installed. Well, the safety slowed them down, purportedly, an insignificant amount but when I saw the draw and fire times, I was stunned.
The draw and fire times for the stock Glock were reported as:
#1 - 0.43 to 0.59 seconds for an average of 0.492
#2 - 0.56 - 0.66 seconds for an average of 0.61 (this was Mas's times)
#3 - didn't list
I was timed once in a class at Gunsite at 0.90 seconds - it was the fastest in the class. I have timed myself numerous times and that's about as fast as I can do and get a decent hit. Plus, Gunsite's expected draw and fire times are about 1.25 seconds - that may be for two shots in an advanced class. But anyway it's no where near the times Mas is claiming. I suppose I might be able to improve my draw and fire time some if I worked hard enough at it, but I could never approach those speeds. Plus, I figure unless I kept it up, I would lose the gained speed.
I saw a guy at a shooting school I went to, do a legitimate draw and fire of 0.66 seconds and the RM, an IDPA national champion, was clearly impressed with the speed. And, BTW, let me tell you how fast this guy was. I know you won't believe this, I wouldn't believe it if you were telling me, but I saw him do this and then I took the G-17 he was doing it with and couldn't even come close. Here's what he did, naaww, you won't believe it.
So back to the article. Of course it may be that they started with their hand on the gun instead of the hand hanging loosely beside it; that would cut off a bunch of time.
So, what do you guys think can these guys be that fast?
OK, OK, what I saw the guy do, was rack the slide of his G-17 with one hand, not touching or contacting anything but air, he could pull the gun rearward, then instantly reverse the motion so fast, that it would rack the slide. Not only that, but it was absolutely astonishing to see him racking out round after round. I took his empty gun and couldn't even start to make the slide rack. We all tried and nobody else could either!
The draw and fire times for the stock Glock were reported as:
#1 - 0.43 to 0.59 seconds for an average of 0.492
#2 - 0.56 - 0.66 seconds for an average of 0.61 (this was Mas's times)
#3 - didn't list
I was timed once in a class at Gunsite at 0.90 seconds - it was the fastest in the class. I have timed myself numerous times and that's about as fast as I can do and get a decent hit. Plus, Gunsite's expected draw and fire times are about 1.25 seconds - that may be for two shots in an advanced class. But anyway it's no where near the times Mas is claiming. I suppose I might be able to improve my draw and fire time some if I worked hard enough at it, but I could never approach those speeds. Plus, I figure unless I kept it up, I would lose the gained speed.
I saw a guy at a shooting school I went to, do a legitimate draw and fire of 0.66 seconds and the RM, an IDPA national champion, was clearly impressed with the speed. And, BTW, let me tell you how fast this guy was. I know you won't believe this, I wouldn't believe it if you were telling me, but I saw him do this and then I took the G-17 he was doing it with and couldn't even come close. Here's what he did, naaww, you won't believe it.
So back to the article. Of course it may be that they started with their hand on the gun instead of the hand hanging loosely beside it; that would cut off a bunch of time.
So, what do you guys think can these guys be that fast?
OK, OK, what I saw the guy do, was rack the slide of his G-17 with one hand, not touching or contacting anything but air, he could pull the gun rearward, then instantly reverse the motion so fast, that it would rack the slide. Not only that, but it was absolutely astonishing to see him racking out round after round. I took his empty gun and couldn't even start to make the slide rack. We all tried and nobody else could either!