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I have been able to do nothing more than hold these 3 guns im looking at in my hand..thats it..ive looked at the local ranges and no one has any available to shoot. I also dont know of anyone that has any of the 3 available to shoot either. so im going in kinda blind..but those are the 3 that ive studied gotten info on that seem to be what im looking for for CC..something Thin and that feels good in my hand. the 3 are in no particular order. Im not very worried about any weight issue as to me they are all light or at least not heavy after carrying a full size 1911 for a time..so none are any heavier than that :) . im also not worried about having a few rounds less than a double stack. I carry a 5 shot Snubby at times and feel just fine with that and 2 reloads(speed strips).

I believe the Walther and the HK are around the same price. I can currently get the Walther PPS in 9mm or .40 for $585 I have seen the HK P7 for a bit less but thats not including shipping..ive seen the C grades for around $525-540+ shipping FFL deal probably comes out to around $570??? so almost the same as the PPS.
The S&W I honestly dont know what a nice example goes for ive not seen one locally for some time now.

So what should I target??

1. S&W 3913
2. Walther PPS
3. HK P7
4. Sig P239
 

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What Glock is on the chopping block?
 

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Sounds like you will need to handle each one to be sure it is right for you. Glocks fit my hand well, except for the subcompact models.
 

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The p7 is an awesome handgun. Thats my vote.
 

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This is just my personal preference, but I would exclude the H&K because I don't like the feel of the squeeze cocking feature, and would go with the S&W 3913 or the Walther PPS. The S&W is a classic single stack 9mm with many fans, while the Walther is a new design with some interesting features. You might have trouble finding the S&W, however, as they are out of production and you have to locate a used one.

I would also put Kahr into the mix, since you're looking for a single stack gun with thin profile. I've had very good experience with a Kahr MK9, the small all steel model. For your application the larger K9 (steel) or P9 (polymer) might be comparable to your other candidate guns.

Finally you haven't mentioned the Sig P239, a single stack with aluminum frame that is comparable to the S&W 3913.
 

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Sounds like you will need to handle each one to be sure it is right for you. Glocks fit my hand well, except for the subcompact models.
I have done so, I cant get any of them to actually shoot.just dont know anyone that has one or anyplace that rents them..but ive at least held them all and they all feel good in hand.
 

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Unless you're stuck with 9mm, grab a Glock-36, you won't believe the grip.:image035:
It costs nothing to pick one up.:22a:
 

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This is just my personal preference, but I would exclude the H&K because I don't like the feel of the squeeze cocking feature, and would go with the S&W 3913 or the Walther PPS. The S&W is a classic single stack 9mm with many fans, while the Walther is a new design with some interesting features. You might have trouble finding the S&W, however, as they are out of production and you have to locate a used one.

I would also put Kahr into the mix, since you're looking for a single stack gun with thin profile. I've had very good experience with a Kahr MK9, the small all steel model. For your application the larger K9 (steel) or P9 (polymer) might be comparable to your other candidate guns.

Finally you haven't mentioned the Sig P239, a single stack with aluminum frame that is comparable to the S&W 3913.
I actually LOVE the squeeze cocker one of my favorite parts about that whole gun.The squeeze cocker was one of the reasons I wanted to get a P7 in my hand to see if Id like the squeeze cock part..and I loved it. But your right...I honestly did forget the Sig P239. So add the 239 to the list.
 

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Unless you're stuck with 9mm, grab a Glock-36, you won't believe the grip.:image035:
It costs nothing to pick one up.:22a:
ive read about too many problems with that Glock model..I was gonna check it out but I think im gonna skip it..out of all the Glocks ive read are reliable(and they are) thats the only one ive seen multiple reports of problems with. And yeah I was thinking of keeping it 9mm or .40 just because I have a good amount of bot ammos on hand and like both calibers..I would however be able to practice more with 9mm because of cost.
 

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sigh....I wish I had my G23 back. Or my G19....I always think the grip on a Glock is bad and I always come back to one or the other. Another G19 is in my future. I'll eventually learn my lesson and quit getting rid of them.
 

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Do you like the Glock other than the grip? If so, try the Generation 4 model. It has an interchangeable backstrap that will fit more hands. If you don't like the Glock for other reasons, then it's time to move on.
 

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Sounds like you will need to handle each one to be sure it is right for you. Glocks fit my hand well, except for the subcompact models.
Same here -- and I have small hands. I like my compact ones. Lately I was looking at 9 mm and I was recommended a Springfield XD that comes with all the accessories. The stack is 10 and one of the accessories that comes with it can stack 16 + 1. I am still thinking about it (thinking expires this afternoon, 1.12.2010) because two or three weeks ago, hubby was offered a Taurus Millenium 9mm and I really like the way it fits my hand. It only carries 10 rounds. And if you are familiar with Taurus generations, the warranty is for your lifetime...what I want to get rid of is my Bersa Thunder .380 and that will pay a bit for my next gun purchase.

Maybe you are in the market for a CC gun you might want to look at the Taurus Millenium...??:yup:
 

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How about getting a grip reduction on your Glock? If that is your only issue with it, it's an easy fix.

Check these folks out-

Southwest Shooting Authority -Guns, ammo, firearms training. Farmington, NM
I thought about that seriously also but it boils down to..do I want a thinner more concealable more comfortable gun to wear...I will admitt that even with the Glock 23 its on the very edge for me as far as being a decent for for CC...something more size wise like the Taurus PT Mil Pro series is a LOT better size for me at least to CC..not saying that gun necessarily but Taurus has some of the BEST SIZE guns on the market right now with good grips(feel good in hand) its just the reliability issue they seem hit or miss...

Plus I keep thinking if I go spend $150 on a grip job thats $150 less I have to spend on a thinner CC gun that I would end up carrying more than the Glock 23 anyways. I think the G lock 23's size with or without a grip job would prevent it from being anything like a "full time" CC gun(even though ive used it as such) it would end up being more a fall/winter type carry gun.

But yes ive thought MANY times on just getting the grip job done I DO think it would solve the Glocks grip problem but it would not solve the Glocks big thick slide problem.
 
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