Or like New Jersey or even Hawaii. Basically, no one gets carry permits in those states. Yeah, sure...they have a system to APPLY, but you're more likely to win the Powerball...twice... than be granted a LTC/CCW.
I almost hope Illinois goes this route. Then, it'll almost certainly come under intense fire and scrutiny for refusing and failing to follow the spirit and intent of the ordered carry statutes. To "carry" means just that. And if essentially nobody gets to, that ain't "carrying," not by a long shot. Hopefully they'll foul it up so badly, in this way, that the whole concept of might-never-issue gets shot to Hades, in SCOTUS. That'd be nice.
The only problem with this is that you're assuming SCOTUS would make the correct decision. I wouldn't count on the odds of that happening.
No assumptions, here. Certainly it's a risk. But then, any of these cases that SAF/GOA/NRA take on is a risk.
That's what is happening today. They have the votes to override Quinn.
If the bill originally passed by both houses is the final bill there is no reciprocity. Out of staters will have to purchase an IL license for $300/5 years. I know, bogus.
Yes, it is. For we non-residents, it'll be expensive if we want to carry in Illinois but at least we will have the option. In the bill that will become law today, a non-resident permit will cost $300 and is good for 5 years. Illinois will not honor the permit of any other state and they will require 16 hours of training to get their permit. What they have listed as acceptable "training" is very strict; what is available today in most states will not qualify. The bill will not allow any sort of "home rule", so a valid permit will be as good on Michigan Ave. in downtown Chicago as it will be in Quincy.
Nicely, though, a number of states fully recognize all other issued CHL's. So, Illinois citizens who travel elsewhere won't be completely screwed.
I'd say late 2014 if not 2015.
If I remember correctly CC was not going to be allowed on any public transportation. I don't know what car ownership is like in Chicago but I bet this little restriction will eliminate alot of legal concealed carry in Chicago. Correct me if I'm wrong.
You're correct. When I lived in Chicago, I took a train from Naperville to downtown and then a L from my office to our Op Center. Under the new bill, I would not be able to do any of that while carrying. There's a lot not to like but it is a huge step forward.
