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I recently took my niece and one of her girlfriends to Disney World, Epcot to be precise. I left my Weapon in the car glove box. I did, however carry my Microtech Makora in it's belt mounted carry sheath, and on the other side my slim cellphone in it's belt case. I wore a fairly baggy long tail type shirt, out side the trousers. The slim cases for both the items were hardly noticable,much less than the weapon would have been. While standing in line at the ticket window, with a good size crowd already building, someone spoke to me from behind, 'sir, would you please let me know what you have in the pouches on your belt?' I was taken completely by surprise. I turned to see a pleasant face on a rather slightly built man probably 40ish, with a very polite demeanor. I smiled, and said, 'man you are really sharp.' I showed him the cellphone pouch, and removed the OTF automatic from the case and stated that it was only a 3 inch 'pocket knife'. He looked it over without asking to hold it, and I of course did not deploy it. He then asked me to please place the knife in my front trouser pocket. I did, and he thanked me and walked away. The surprising thing is to me, the pouches were really so non protruding, and so slightly printing when turning my body. I never would have expected in such a busy place, with such minor visibility of printing that someone would have noticed. It made me glad that I decided to leave the weapon in the car, so as to avoid a long walk back to place it in the glove box.
 

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He was OK with the knife, obviously. I wonder why he cared where you carried it.
I wondered the same thing. I could not conceive of a reasonable explanation. I was, frankly, surprised that he did not question as to how it was deployed, and or request that I demonstrate it to him. I was seriously impressed that he noticed anything at all.
 

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He was OK with the knife, obviously. I wonder why he cared where you carried it.
If the :sheep: :sheep: :sheep: :sheep: :sheep: :sheep: :sheep: :sheep::sheep: see the clip, there might be a stampede?:rolleyes:
 

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I surmise that he verified that it was just a small knife.
To place it in your pocket could be to not have any other security re- detect the same thing.
 

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Only time I've seen them using a wand is at Holloween Horrer, any other time they just check Fanny packs ect. & I walk on through ; )
 

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I surmise that he verified that it was just a small knife.
To place it in your pocket could be to not have any other security re- detect the same thing.
I was thinking the same thing.
 

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If the :sheep: :sheep: :sheep: :sheep: :sheep: :sheep: :sheep: :sheep::sheep: see the clip, there might be a stampede?:rolleyes:
OH THE HORROR! Trampled to death by sheep! :rofl:
 

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He was OK with the knife, obviously. I wonder why he cared where you carried it.
Does Disney World have amusement park rides? Perhaps pocket knives are required to be kept in the front pocket for safety reasons or liability... or so it doesn't fall out and land on somebody.
 

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1) Was he in a uniform or any kind?
2) If not, did he offer any official ID?
3) If neither of the above, why respond?
 

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I surmise that he verified that it was just a small knife.
To place it in your pocket could be to not have any other security re- detect the same thing.
That is a good reason, it may also just be the incredible sensitivity of some people to any weapon or the perception thereof. He has probably heard the phrase "That person has a weapon" in all of its different variations about a million times from concerned patrons of Mouse World.

Due to his incredible powers of perception, he sounds like a veteran of the "Rounds" (Security) who knows how to use Preventative Minimal Action to great effect.

A little action now saves him a lot of it later.
 

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Yes....

1) Was he in a uniform or any kind?
2) If not, did he offer any official ID?
3) If neither of the above, why respond?
he was in uniform. I believe that Disney has a strict no firearm in parks policy. I can remember at least a couple of incidents which made the local news in the last few years or so. I rarely go to Disney, and when I do it is always Epcot, as there are some interesting events there throughout the year. I just never have researched their carry policy, personally.
 

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Epcot.....

Does Disney World have amusement park rides? Perhaps pocket knives are required to be kept in the front pocket for safety reasons or liability... or so it doesn't fall out and land on somebody.
has a few 'rides'. That may be a reasonable explanation.
 

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If I was him the first words out of my mouth would have been....."can I see your Microtech so I can play with it for a minute" returned it and then said "thank you"...

I agree with the above post on why move it to the front pocket?

Either way atleast you got to carry some form of protection :)
 

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If I was him the first words out of my mouth would have been....."can I see your Microtech so I can play with it for a minute" returned it and then said "thank you"...

I agree with the above post on why move it to the front pocket?

Either way atleast you got to carry some form of protection :)
Being that the security guard was in a "professional" mode, I commend his approach.

I don't think giving the OP away to the other patrons, by letting them know he was carrying a knife, is the proper approach. If the security guard wanted to play with the knife the truly professional one would wait until he or she was not on the clock and found one at a local vendor to play with.

Me thinks you were "handled by a professional". Doesn't that feel better than just a wild grope and grab?

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Sounds like a good guy, doing a good job. Some people use cellphone carriers as magazine holsters, so maybe this is what he was checking for.

If it were me, I'd appreciate the guy doing his job as he should, instead of just staring off into the distance as some do.
 

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I agree....

as to his professionalism, as I was left with respect for him in the manner in which he interacted with me, as well as his observational skills. And yes Chrise 2004, I was thankful that he allowed me to enter the park with the knife, and I like to think that his excellent professional skills allowed him to judge me as a decent citizen, and not some yahoo. I can not know for how long a time he had observed me as we stood in line, prior to his approaching me. I think, considering that since carrying concealed is not condoned by Disney, it is good to have such proficient security officers around. My nephew worked security in the past in the Pleasure Island area, and there was plenty of need for officers during his stint.
 

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Just guessing but maybe they have a policy against knives in belt "sheaths". Not really accurate but might be misconstrued.
 
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