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The hollowpoint is a six-petaled gaping maw of an opening that promises lots of terminal ballistic performance, and its expansion does not disappoint. Adding reliable feeding to the round is a nickel-plated case or cases, as the PDX1 line is going to start out in six loads in four calibers.

Performance was everything you'd expect of a load the FBI is receiving as I write this: Full expansion, with the average of the first five round being .615-inch, and full FBI penetration, averaging 15 inches of gelatin. This is not ammo for the faint-of-heart. Launching a 180-grain bullet in the close vicinity of 1000 fps takes work, and your hand will realize that. But if it is performance you want, this ammo delivers.


Full Guns and Ammo Review here:

Winchester PDX1

So is this bullet a replacement for the Ranger line, or better? Anyone know?
 

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Ooolala... I like the look of these, shoot rangers personally But these are some sick puppies
 

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I fired some in 9mm and they were very accurate
There was in fact a noticeable jump in accuracy from ball ammo.
 

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No, I don't think they will replace the Ranger line. I have heard and I don't know how true it is but someome here I think mentioned that the PDX1 is their existing bonded Ranger renamed.
 

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And isn't the PDX1 a renamed Gold Dot? What possible improvement can there be?
 

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And isn't the PDX1 a renamed Gold Dot? What possible improvement can there be?
Nope. Winchester makes the PDX and Speer makes Gold Dot, unless you are implying the PDX is a copy cat bullet.
 

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Nope. Winchester makes the PDX and Speer makes Gold Dot, unless you are implying the PDX is a copy cat bullet.
It's defintiely not a copycat; looking at the two side by side, they are quite different...

I think, though, that the PDX1 is a replacement for the SXT line.
 

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I meant a copycat. The one expanded I saw even had the "gold dot" in the center of the expanded mushroom. I was hoping for sharp pointy talons like the Ranger in a bonded bullet. Of course, when you think about it that probably isn't easy to do with a bonded jacket.
 

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Actually, my local Wal Mart had .45, .40, and 9mm on the shelf last time I was there. Like 10 boxes of each.
 

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According to Olin (Winchester’s parent company) the PDX1 and the Ranger Bonded is the same round. The difference is that the PDX1 is packaged in 20 round boxes for the consumer while the Ranger Bonded is packaged in 50 round boxes for LE.

There is currently no plan to discontinue the Ranger T, but I have no idea whether the STX will be phased out and replaced by the PDX1.

This is based on a phone call I had with them about two months ago.
 

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According to Olin (Winchester’s parent company) the PDX1 and the Ranger Bonded is the same round. The difference is that the PDX1 is packaged in 20 round boxes for the consumer while the Ranger Bonded is packaged in 50 round boxes for LE.

There is currently no plan to discontinue the Ranger T, but I have no idea whether the STX will be phased out and replaced by the PDX1.

This is based on a phone call I had with them about two months ago.
If your right then it is a consumer rip off. I paid around $30 for a 20 round box of 40 PDX at Bass Pro. 3 days ago I paid $32.95 for box of 50 Ranger at my local gun shop. Consumers beware.
 

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Im sticking with my Rangers
 

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I carry the PDX1 and LOVE THEM. It was my understanding however that these are the improved version of the Ranger T's. I don't believe they were made to replace them, at least not any time soon. I actually prefer these over the Speer Gold Dots.
 

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I carry the PDX1 and LOVE THEM. It was my understanding however that these are the improved version of the Ranger T's. I don't believe they were made to replace them, at least not any time soon. I actually prefer these over the Speer Gold Dots.
What improvements could have been made from the Ranger T's?
 

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I'll have to at least take a look at them for my snub. I think the switch from 38 Spl +P 125 GR Gold GDHP to .38 Spl +P 135 GR Gold GDHP had value.

Might make an interesting .38 +P 130 GR reload.
 
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