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Chokwe Antar Lumumba

The town got what it asked for... If this were in my town in FL, I'd have Chokwe in court in a civil suit before the sun rose. On his dime.
 

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Mayor Oompaloompa can suck it - he has no such power or authority, and his so-called reasoning is so ludicrous as to be beyond laughable.

He's just quoting from the anti-gunner phrase book without thinking.
 

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The mayor seems to have a fundamental lack of understanding of the differences between individual rights and government-controlled privileges. The gentleman is not alone in that failing. Lots of people have not made that mental connection, and many probably never will do so.

A classic example of why we need a strong constitution as the foundation for all law and public policy. The obvious alternative is a standard based upon what one person decides day by day, case by case, incident by incident. In other words, what some like to refer to as a "living constitution" that allows never-ending interpretation to meet perceived societal needs.

Mr. Mayor, if you object to my free exercise of my constitutionally-guaranteed individual liberties I suggest that you first look in another direction to protect your tender sensibilities, then secondly you should resign because you cannot comply with your oath of office (to support, defend, and uphold the constitution). I will be happy to provide pen and paper anytime.
 

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"A right that protects illegal guns and puts more people in fear, a right that escalates conflict beyond the point of resolution, and a right that interferes with another person’s right to live is not a legitimate right to be maintained," he said. "Your right to swing ends at my nose."

"The open carry law interferes with law enforcement’s ability to take illegal guns off of the streets," Lumumba continued.
I.D.I.OT.
 

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Mayor Lumumba is the son of a previous Mayor of Jackson, also named Chokwe Lumumba, who renamed himself (from Edwin Taliaferro) to commemorate Patrice Lumumba, the first Prime Minister of the Democratic Republic of the Congo.
Since both father and son have chosen to carry the name Lumumba, I suggest that it is a clear indication of their personal politics (at least Socialist, but more likely Communist) and their belief in a dictatorial central government which intends to reform society by force.

A further indication of Lumumba family politics comes to light when one learns that the elder Mayor Chokwe Lumumba belonged to the separatist (and seemingly racist) "Republic of New Afrika" [sic].
However, one wonders just how Jackson, Mississippi, would achieve separation, either political or economic, from the rest of the state and from the nation.
Personified in the Lumumbas, one sees more than 100 years of history, and the achievement of social equality, sliding down George Orwell's "memory hole."

I confess being reminded of a time when life emulated art, when the "Bloom County" comic strip featured a story line in which the Black students of its Walden College were holding a separatist demonstration demanding their own separate drinking fountains.
Very soon thereafter, the (very real) Black students of (very real) Stanford University held a separatist demonstration in which they, too, demanded their own separate drinking fountains.

"Oh, what fools these mortals be!" –Puck (William Shakespeare)
 

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The mayor seems to have a fundamental lack of understanding of the differences between individual rights and government-controlled privileges. The gentleman is not alone in that failing. Lots of people have not made that mental connection, and many probably never will do so.

A classic example of why we need a strong constitution as the foundation for all law and public policy. The obvious alternative is a standard based upon what one person decides day by day, case by case, incident by incident. In other words, what some like to refer to as a "living constitution" that allows never-ending interpretation to meet perceived societal needs.

Mr. Mayor, if you object to my free exercise of my constitutionally-guaranteed individual liberties I suggest that you first look in another direction to protect your tender sensibilities, then secondly you should resign because you cannot comply with your oath of office (to support, defend, and uphold the constitution). I will be happy to provide pen and paper anytime.
Mayor Lumumba is the son of a previous Mayor of Jackson, also named Chokwe Lumumba, who renamed himself (from Edwin Taliaferro) to commemorate Patrice Lumumba, the first Prime Minister of the Democratic Republic of the Congo.
Since both father and son have chosen to carry the name Lumumba, I suggest that it is a clear indication of their personal politics (at least Socialist, but more likely Communist) and their belief in a dictatorial central government which intends to reform society by force.

A further indication of Lumumba family politics comes to light when one learns that the elder Mayor Chokwe Lumumba belonged to the separatist (and seemingly racist) "Republic of New Afrika" [sic].
However, one wonders just how Jackson, Mississippi, would achieve separation, either political or economic, from the rest of the state and from the nation.
Personified in the Lumumbas, one sees more than 100 years of history, and the achievement of social equality, sliding down George Orwell's "memory hole."

I confess being reminded of a time when life emulated art, when the "Bloom County" comic strip featured a story line in which the Black students of its Walden College were holding a separatist demonstration demanding their own separate drinking fountains.
Very soon thereafter, the (very real) Black students of (very real) Stanford University held a separatist demonstration in which they, too, demanded their own separate drinking fountains.

"Oh, what fools these mortals be!" –Puck (William Shakespeare)
Both so very well said. Excellent posts about this subject.

It is a sad day when politicians use a nationwide crisis to advance their "progressive" agendas. We are seeing this at local, state, and national levels and We the People need to openly resist these attempts to curtail and even rescind our rights. "Never let a crisis go to waste" is the mantra of despots and dictators. Best to nip such actions in the bud.

Questions. How does this idiot think his executive order is going to be carried out? Who is going to enforce it? Whaet would they do if several dozen or more people decided to protest while openly armed? And are the local police in favor of this order?
 

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It would be interesting to see what guidance Jackson PD's legal advisor gave to the officers as far as the enforcement of this city ordinance that is in conflict with a state statute! I'd be willing to bet most of those officers will avoid that legal jackpot at all costs despite what the mayor says!
 

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Both so very well said. Excellent posts about this subject.

It is a sad day when politicians use a nationwide crisis to advance their "progressive" agendas. We are seeing this at local, state, and national levels and We the People need to openly resist these attempts to curtail and even rescind our rights. "Never let a crisis go to waste" is the mantra of despots and dictators. Best to nip such actions in the bud.

Questions. How does this idiot think his executive order is going to be carried out? Who is going to enforce it? Whaet would they do if several dozen or more people decided to protest while openly armed? And are the local police in favor of this order?
Does Mississippi have a preemption law? I know my state does, and it helps keep towns and cities from pulling this crap.
 

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The racial breakdown of Jackson is as follows:
82.02% African American
16.2% White.
Race should never be the only consideration when voting for someone.
Did the city know that they were electing a communist/socialist?
Or did they just vote for skin color?
If they knew who he was and his family history, then they got what they wanted.
I personally do not care about your race, creed or gender when I am voting for someone. Only what you believe in and how well you will represent me.
 

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The racial breakdown of Jackson is as follows:
82.02% African American
16.2% White.
Race should never be the only consideration when voting for someone.
Did the city know that they were electing a communist/socialist?
Or did they just vote for skin color?
If they knew who he was and his family history, then they got what they wanted.
I personally do not care about your race, creed or gender when I am voting for someone. Only what you believe in and how well you will represent me.
I'm just like you with this. I would never vote for a woman or a black person for president. However, I most definitely would vote for a black or a woman who held my core belief structure as their own. Hopefully, this us understood by anyone who reads this. I could care less what color or sex some candidate is as long as they hold my same values and beliefs.

As for Jackson, MS, my guess is that they voted race. I saw this happen in 2008 where I worked at that time when Obama was the dem candidate. I disdain this sort of behavior.

BTW, I would wage there are almost no "African Americans" in Mississippi.
 
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NYC thinks it is the state.
NYC literally has it's own gun laws. A NY state carry license is null and void in NYC. NYC does not recognize the LEOSA. An off duty NY state trooper cannot legally carry in NYC. It's a perfect place for people like Bloomberg and DeBlasio.
 

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NYC literally has it's own gun laws. A NY state carry license is null and void in NYC. NYC does not recognize the LEOSA. An off duty NY state trooper cannot legally carry in NYC. It's a perfect place for people like Bloomberg and DeBlasio.
That is why neither one of them made it too far running for president.
Let them stay in the crap hole they created
 

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I think we all agree on the legal debate. I think we also have consensus that progressives don't care about laws or constitutions when those documents impede their agenda. Nor do they care about logic.

What about liberally minded centrists? Can this expose hypocrisy and lack of any rational thought through a logical argument? I think this clip show a great argument for reason, from an attorney, legal aspects aside.

What are your favorite logic gaffes from the mayor?

 
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