Agreed. I really enjoy shooting J-frames at old 5 gallon buckets at about 10 yards. Doesn't prove a thing except it's fun. A few weekends ago, I had the chance to run a magazine through a HK G3. I was shooting at a big berm -- have no idea what exactly I hit except that berm. Outstanding! It is nice sometimes to just relax and not worry about anything but the joy of shooting.