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This is just tossed out there to try to help me make a decision on keeping my new .22 Mossberg ar or not after seeing all the good write ups about the Henry gun. I haven't shot it yet, but the write ups on the Moss ar (on-line at gun reviews) are not that good and I'm reading where it gets jammed a lot.

I'm limited on my funds (very). How important is an ar to my collection. I can't afford one of the more powerful ar's and don't like the plastic toy like feel to this ar. If "SHTF" happens, how important is this gun since it's a .22? I thought it would be good for snake kill'en, but my 12G will take care of that. Is a .22ar that much funner than a regular .22? The 308 I got w/ scope is my favorite gun right now (Winchester) and I'm thinking the Henry .22 would be a better fit and my Dad would have fun with it too. should I bite the bullet so to speak and keep the ar and save up for the Henry or sell it and then get the Henry .22?

Most of you fellows are more seasoned with guns than I will ever be and I value your opinion.

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The way to find out if your gun works or not is to shoot it. It may work just fine.

Guns are like cars, now that you took it from the shop it is worth less than a brand new one. Shooting it won't hurt it's value as a used gun so you might as well see if it's a good one or not.
 

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'Another recommendation to shoot it for a while. You might find that you like it.

If you don't, sell it and get the Henry. Like atctimmy said, the rounds that you put through it will not affect its value.

Of course, I'm always a fan of having both.
 

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If it is a choice between the .22 AR and a Henry lever-action, I personally would sell the AR or trade it on a Henry. I just don't get the tactical .22 rifles. The Henry Golden Boy .22 magnum is one of my favorite guns for hunting small game or target practice and plinking.
 
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A ruger 10/22 would make a much better shtf .22 IMO. I've seen a few of those mossbergs at the range and the owners are constantly clearing jams. The ruger is reliable, and has plenty of aftermarket support including higher capacity mags...
 

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Don't know much about the Mossberg .22 but a lot of people prefer a .22 AR in a meltdown scenario where .22 ammo might be more readily available and more easily carried in large quantities. I'd go with the others and say shoot it and see how it works for you before making a decision if you have any reservations at all about selling it.
 

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I'd sell/trade the mossberg for the henry.

For SHTF defense you have a .308 and a 12 gauge. If you need a .22 for hunting or anything like that the henry will serve just as well as the mossberg. Maybe better.

You can probably get a good price for it right now too.
 

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I faced the same decision as you. I sold my AR for more than I paid for it and I suggest that you do the same before all those un-needed AR's that were bought in panic hit the used market. There is not even a rifle range near me to shoot it so I sold it after being bugged to sell it and an offer too good to refuse was made. :)
 

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This below is where I'm leaning because like Alex said I already got the 12G & 308 and like Old_Dog said, sell it before the novelty is gone and all the others will be out for sale. Still got the second mag for 25+ in the package and it came with one just like it. Dang I'm torn, the others made sense too because it might be a blast to shoot!
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I faced the same decision as you. I sold my AR for more than I paid for it and I suggest that you do the same before all those un-needed AR's that were bought in panic hit the used market. There is not even a rifle range near me to shoot it so I sold it after being bugged to sell it and an offer too good to refuse was made. :)
 

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The Mossberg 22 AR is a knock-off. It is not a Tier 1 manufacturer like Colt or even Smith & Wesson. It has a reputation for jamming, and it will be worth more UN-FIRED than fired. Henry has a reputation as a world-class manufacturer. If you can break even on dumping the Mossberg, do it.

The Henry (or any other Tier 1 manufacturer) will always hold better values than the "other makers". Just building a collection, you are much better off spending a little more and getting a weapon that will hold or increase in value. The Mossie is about $325 new? And used, you'd be doing well to get $200. BUT: with the hysteria going on, you might be able to sell it with the mags and make a little profit! But sooner or later, the market will correct, and you'll be holding a $150 rifle that nobody wants!

Not so with a Henry lever!
 

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If you want a solid AR style 22....save and get a colt or s&w MP series.... the mossy is a POS. its made out of pot metal for crying out loud. The henry is a solid gun and will hold its value far better than that mossy will. And since the mossies have a reputation as junk, that value wont ever be much.
 
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And in a SHTF scenario,

Someone shooting a tactical 22LR, even tho it looks like a .223, to thwart the hordes of evil-doers is gonna piss somebody off with a real weapon, and that's not a good situation to be in. A tactical 22 Mossie is fine for plinking, teaching kids to shoot, or taking out the occasional squirrel with a bad attitude, but as was already stated, the Ruger 10/22 makes a much better choice for a survival rifle...especially if you opt for the take-down model! There are no points awarded in a survival situation for the "tacti-coolest" rifle.
 

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I would get a 10/22,it has detachable 25 or 50 round magazines,and you can get an ATI aftermarket stock with a sliding butt stock and picatinny rails for mounting a light and optics
 
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My recommendation would be to sell it now while prices are high! Then you can buy it back when they drop down, probably sometime in the next few years. I agree that you seem adequately equipped. If it were your only firearm, I might advise you to keep it, but because you are otherwise well-armed, sell it for three times what it's worth and then buy it back later. Make yourself a little money.

I think a .22 rifle would be good to have for a "SHTF," survival scenario, but you could do without for a few years.
 

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Good things come to those who wait.

To the uninformed, your Mossberg is "one of those scary looking black AR automatic assault rifles that spray bullets everywhere". In a true SHTF scenario the intimidation factor your "scary looking rifle" has on the uniformed could play to your advantage.

Consider holding onto the Mossberg and saving for your Henry. Make it your mission to find new ways to save every penny you can so that you can buy the Henry without selling your Mossberg. You will be surprised at how quickly your Henry savings grows...Think about having a yard sale or perhaps you have some CDs and DVDs you could sell. Maybe you can save a few dollars by switching brands when you go grocery shopping or cutting out a snack item. Maybe there is a cheaper phone plan or cable package. I called my satellite provider and told them that they needed to lower my bill without changing the services they were providing...they reduced my bill by $20 a month...That's $240 a year in saving just because I asked for it.

Your Mossberg can become a dedicated rifle for a bug out bag or a get home bag. Get a sling, screwdriver and a few rubber bands...install the sling and then unscrew the stock where it meets the receiver. Now the two pieces can be stored in just about any bag and the two pieces are tethered together by the sling. Secure the screwdriver to the stock with the rubber bands so the screwdriver will remain where it is needed. The gun will function with the stock removed so if you find yourself in a situation where quick access/use is required you can always wait for a more opportune time to attach the stock.
 
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As a few of the others stated, their are some outstanding 15-22's out there. I have the Smith&Wesson 15-22 in their premium Magpul MOE Flat Dark Earth model and it is extremely reliable. With CCI minimags it has been danged near perfect for me. I like it so much I have ordered a second one that will be my dedicated trunk shtf rifle.
 

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Depends on what your SHTF scenarios look like, I'd say.

For many, it'll be an urban situation in which a .223 or .308 makes much more sense. For others, it'll be in a country setting where a .22LR can be sufficient for small game and basic defense but where thousands more rounds can be kept on-hand (for, say, a full crash of ammo availability). In a true bug-out type SHTF situation, you'll need to think through what you're able to take with you and how that'll impact on your decision for what you'll need to leave behind, cache elsewhere, etc.

Myself, I found the AR platform to be something I'm not all that comfortable with. For basic rifle defense, I feel I'm better served by an M1 Carbine, by a decent lever-action in .44 or .357, a .22LR lever, and a couple of pistols. Of course, it's not all the same caliber, so there's that little wrinkle to iron out. But for me, these options make more sense, given the situations I consider I'll be most likely to have to deal with.
 

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Going to save up for the Henry ~ gotta have it. It will take a few months and like 1goodguy said, sell something. Might sell the ar, still can't decide but I can save up for the Henry while deciding. I declare this gun thing is getting to be an addiction! After I an get this one my safe won't hold any more, so I reckon another safe will be in order and this one will be for the ammo.

Yeah, I have read where the Moss is a POS, lol, but have also read if you somehow file the inside of the mag where it's getting stuck it will fire real nicely. I do like the weight and the fact when my "itis" in the hands act up it's really easy to hold.
And yes a S&W would have been nicer, but for the money to add to the ar to get the S&W I can have both my Moss AND the Henry!

What did Cindy Lauper sing......"Girls just want to have guns...., Oh girls just want to have guns" :AR15firing:
 

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Sister: If you get the Henry, get the .22 MAG--it is a great intermediate round, falling between the .22 Long Rifle (great for plinking, small game) and the .223 which is what most of the "evil black rifles" are chambered in. You can still carry a WHOLE BUNCH of .22 Mag, and its quite a bit more potent than the .22 LR. My youngest daughter has the Henry in .357, so she can use the same ammo in both her pistol and rifle.
 
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