Keltec PF-9
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I've seen some good reviews on the PF9 and I'm sure it'll give you plenty of reliable service. I don't own one and haven't shot one either, but there's plenty of um out there and I'v seen way more good than any bad reviews on performance. The only thing I saw that was :hand1: said they're not fun pistols to shoot. I'd say so what to that, it's a defense gun not a range pistol. Reasonably priced, I say go for it. I was considering one, but went with the Kahr CW9 instead. The Kahr was just a few dollars more and I liked the fit and finish better.
Good luck. :bier:
GBK
Good luck. :bier:
GBK
I've had one for 11 months. The recoil is harsh and I personally have had issues with FTF because of it. My poor shooting technique, not the guns fault. One, I haven't shot it enough, and two, my hands are starting to get arthritic (that's my story and I'm sticking to it...
). The fit and finish isn't the best, but it's very low cost. There's even a "fluff and buff" procedure shown over at thektog.org that improves the guns performance. On the plus side, there isn't a better sized pistol out there for CC IMO. It's slim and short. I pocket carry it in an Elite Tactical Holster I got on ebay for $15, with a cut down mouse pad clipped to it for anti-printing. It will fit any cargo pant type pocket, front or back. And, it's 7+1 of 9MM. As far as I know, it's never been noticed in pretty close to constant carry. It's also pretty accurate. Definitely accurate enough for personal protection.
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I use the Kel Tec for a backup. I just requaled it about a month ago, from 15 yards on into contact range, it put all of its shots into the head of a B27 silhouette.
No issues with it and its reliable enough with duty ammo that I can and do bet my life on it every time I carry it.
I did break the firing pin once by dry firing(not recommended by the company) and a call to the factory had me the parts in 3 days. It does have a lifetime warranty,and should you ever need it, Kel Tec is great to deal with.
No issues with it and its reliable enough with duty ammo that I can and do bet my life on it every time I carry it.
I did break the firing pin once by dry firing(not recommended by the company) and a call to the factory had me the parts in 3 days. It does have a lifetime warranty,and should you ever need it, Kel Tec is great to deal with.
I have a KelTec P-11. I think it is the same as the PF-9 except for the magazine capacity. Mine is reliable and concealable. Be sure to try one out to see if you like the trigger. The curve on the trigger is aggressive to the point where I got a blister on the inside tip of my trigger finger from conditioning the trigger with snap caps. The pull on my trigger is long and stout. I took it apart and did a complete trigger job on it. It is smooth, but still takes a pretty good squeeze. It is a dream to conceal. Mine has a little clip from KelTec that makes it a perfect boot gun. I clip it to the inside top of the left boot and forget about it. It also fits some of my shirt pockets. I make little kydex holsters for different pockets to make it ride barrel vertical. Got mine used from a LEO for $200 with mags, clip, and a box of ammo. I don't think he liked it very much as it was not in super clean condition when I got it and he sold it cheap. It benefited from a fluff and buff and some hand polishing of certain internals. The trigger pull is harder than my P-3AT. That is the only thing. Make sure you like the trigger. I am going to keep mine. Can't beat a 9mm that carries 11 rounds and fits in your shirt pocket.
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Kel Tec are serviceable but there are much better guns and options avalible. A PF9 is certainly not the pick of the litter as you call it. But at the low price point they work for some people, not others.
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I just got mine yesterday and put over 100 rounds through it with onlt to FTE's.
And they happened when my 13 year old daughter was shooting it, limp wristing being the cause. I had no failures what so ever.
It is a very light compact 9mm that carries easy. Though not a gun you would want to go to the range and shoot hours on end. It does what it is designed to do very well. It is a accurate small form carry weapon.
And as a bonus it fit my Tucker IWB holster for my 1911a1 3.5" almost like it was made for it.
I'm liking it.
And they happened when my 13 year old daughter was shooting it, limp wristing being the cause. I had no failures what so ever.
It is a very light compact 9mm that carries easy. Though not a gun you would want to go to the range and shoot hours on end. It does what it is designed to do very well. It is a accurate small form carry weapon.
And as a bonus it fit my Tucker IWB holster for my 1911a1 3.5" almost like it was made for it.
I'm liking it.
Kel-Tec PF-9
I recently acquired a PF-9, and after solving a few minor issues, I'm very pleased and impressed.
That said, the PF-9 had some problems in early production runs, but Kel-Tec seems to have worked out all the bugs. If you're buying a used gun, that might be an issue, but Kel-Tec does stand behind their equipment, and will make it right if you end up with one of those.
After shooting a number of times, the ejector spring screw loosened. IMHO, it appears they put something like Loctite on the very end of the screw.... and it needs to be close to the head of the screw. Otherwise it will back out slightly and cause fail-to-eject problems, and if loose enough, it will allow the firing pin to fall out. A touch of BLUE Loctite will solve the problem. Again... this is a MINOR issue, and you can check the screw for tightness with the supplied Allen wrench.
If you are recoil-sensitive, this is NOT the gun to have. A friend and I acquired ours at the same time, and while I enjoy recoil, he doesn't.... and he shoots a few rounds and puts it down for the day.
Someone in a previous post had a Kel-Tec P11 and said the trigger was terrible. From those I've handled, I would agree. The trigger of the PF-9 is totally different, and while long, is NOT at all like the P11 trigger.
While yet unfired, a friend just got a Ruger 709 Slim. By weight, the 709 is about 50% heavier than the PF-9 and just slightly larger in more than one dimension. I'm guessing the perceived recoil for the 709 is going to be much lighter.
BTW, while factory loads will result in some people selling their PF-9s after a few shots, using my old Lyman reloading manual as a guide, I created a minimal load with cast wheelweights for 120 grain truncated cone bullets, and even my wife will shoot this thing. Heavier powder loads have all resulted in keyholing in both of my 9mm guns with those bullets.
I recently acquired a PF-9, and after solving a few minor issues, I'm very pleased and impressed.
That said, the PF-9 had some problems in early production runs, but Kel-Tec seems to have worked out all the bugs. If you're buying a used gun, that might be an issue, but Kel-Tec does stand behind their equipment, and will make it right if you end up with one of those.
After shooting a number of times, the ejector spring screw loosened. IMHO, it appears they put something like Loctite on the very end of the screw.... and it needs to be close to the head of the screw. Otherwise it will back out slightly and cause fail-to-eject problems, and if loose enough, it will allow the firing pin to fall out. A touch of BLUE Loctite will solve the problem. Again... this is a MINOR issue, and you can check the screw for tightness with the supplied Allen wrench.
If you are recoil-sensitive, this is NOT the gun to have. A friend and I acquired ours at the same time, and while I enjoy recoil, he doesn't.... and he shoots a few rounds and puts it down for the day.
Someone in a previous post had a Kel-Tec P11 and said the trigger was terrible. From those I've handled, I would agree. The trigger of the PF-9 is totally different, and while long, is NOT at all like the P11 trigger.
While yet unfired, a friend just got a Ruger 709 Slim. By weight, the 709 is about 50% heavier than the PF-9 and just slightly larger in more than one dimension. I'm guessing the perceived recoil for the 709 is going to be much lighter.
BTW, while factory loads will result in some people selling their PF-9s after a few shots, using my old Lyman reloading manual as a guide, I created a minimal load with cast wheelweights for 120 grain truncated cone bullets, and even my wife will shoot this thing. Heavier powder loads have all resulted in keyholing in both of my 9mm guns with those bullets.
Sounds like this is a good pistol. I like the way my LCP carries and shoots but I just don't think that it is adequate in power. I want to move up to the 9mm and my XDm 40 is just not an option for EDC.
Thankyou for all of your responces.
Phil
Thankyou for all of your responces.
Phil
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I like em too....alot:hand10:.
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Mine was fine for several hundred rounds and then I started having a few failure to extract. Talked to KelTec and they sent me a new extractor, screw, and spring. I installed the new parts and it has been flawless since with another several hundred rounds downrange. I did the fluff and buff that made it nicer to fire. It is not a fun gun to shoot but no worse than any other lightweight firearm. Very east to conceal.
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I've had my PF9 for about a month or so and just love to carry it. It conseals nicely and is very comfortable . . . you almost forget its there. It is not fun to shoot. The recoil is strong but controllable. Overall, it shoots quite reliably and accurately. I've had only one FTF so far. Target is at 7 yards with 124 grain Gold Dot hollow points.
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I found the trigger pull to be even longer and annoying than my P3AT's.
As for reliability? Not for me! Broken hammer spring while firing (50 rds), broken takedown pin while firing (150 rds). At least the pin did not jam the slide, but could have. As for hammer spring, you're toast if that happens at the wrong time.
(yes, I've posted these many times before, but not everyone searches!)
I'll be getting a nice striker fired pistol, not a tiny hammer spring fired one.
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