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I know Rollo already has a thread, but just from how his question was asked, it's clear he knows something about knives and I know nothing. But I'd guess his needs might be different than mine.

I want a defense knife. No clue what to look for.

Saw a bunch of people raving about the Kershaw Ken Onion Leek knife and the name seemed bizarro enough for me to look at it on Amazon.

Sounds like it might be good for my small hands. The price is certainly acceptable.

But I know nothing about knives. Will be studying them in my martial arts class within a week or two, but in replying, assume I am clueless, because I currently am.

Thanks.
 

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Okay, Spyderco -- many models. What am I looking for?

Addendum - No clue what the laws are regarding knives. Is that a state-by-state thing?
 

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Okay, Spyderco -- many models. What am I looking for?
Maybe a Delica? Something larger if such is legal for you to carry. IMO, the Spyderco Endura is the best value for your money out there.


Addendum - No clue what the laws are regarding knives. Is that a state-by-state thing?
Yes. It can also be a county-by-county, city-by-city, township-by-township kind of thing.
 

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If you want a really nice one the Spyderco para-Military. That is the one I will be getting soon.
 

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I'd love it if, along with recommendations, anyone could tell me WHY they recommend a particular knife?

They all look so different from each other.
 

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I tend to recommend Spyderco products ,cause I just love 'em.:smile:
Beyond that, I'm particularly fond of the Delica4, and Endura4 because they accommodate ambi tip up and tip down clip positions, the pivot is adjustable, the FRN (fiber reinforced nylon grip scales) versions are very reasonably priced, and have a nice grippy texture, the lock system is strong, and doesn't require thin springs, and there are drones available. I also prefer Spyderco's RoundHole to thumb studs or discs.
 

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There are a ton of great knives out there, in all price ranges. I am partial to SOG, especially the Flash II. It fits my needs and is very practical.

The knife clip goes all the way to the end, which makes it more concealable in your pocket. I also like the spring assisted opening feature and the lock for when not being carried.
 

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I tend to recommend Spyderco products ,cause I just love 'em.:smile:
Beyond that, I'm particularly fond of the Delica4, and Endura4 because they accommodate ambi tip up and tip down clip positions, the pivot is adjustable, the FRN (fiber reinforced nylon grip scales) versions are very reasonably priced, and have a nice grippy texture, the lock system is strong, and doesn't require thin springs, and there are drones available. I also prefer Spyderco's RoundHole to thumb studs or discs.
I don't think I understand anything you just said.

Maybe I'm not ready to buy a knife because I'm clearly, entirely over my head.

unloved, my clothing would not be fixed blade compatible. (Whew, at least I understand that much!)
 

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If a fixed blade is excluded, then I recommend my method of carry: a folder clipped next to the edge of the rear vertical seam of the pants front pocket.

If you want to have self-defense as an optional function of the knife, I recommend any knife with the "wave" feature (patented by Emerson), which is a hook on the base of the blade opposite the cutting edge. Spyderco's Delica and Endura are available with this feature, plus several more expensive Emerson knives. To use the hook, carry the knife with the tip up and snag the hook on the rear seam when you withdraw the knife. This will open the blade instantly, even faster than an automatic knife (AKA switchblade).

Here's a picture :: Spyderco Product Details :: . Spydercos have the advantage of mounting the clip on either side, for both right-hand or left-hand carry.

A tip: lots of knife-selling websites have lower prices than the manufacturer's own site. I have had good luck with http://www.osograndeknives.com/ , for example.
 

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The SOG Pentagon Elite I would be a good - one hand - fast opening - self~defense carry knife.
It has a 4" blade so you'll need to find out if there is a "blade length restriction" in your state.

 

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Beyond that, I'm particularly fond of the Delica4, and Endura4 because they accommodate ambi tip up and tip down clip positions.
I'm left handed, but I carry folders on both sides of my body. If a knife can't be set up for carry on either side, I won't buy it.

Tip up or down refers to the orientation of the point when the knife is closed and in your pocket. I prefer tip down for most, but not all, applications. I like to have the option of setting my knives up for either. Carry position is largely a personal preference thing.

...the pivot is adjustable...
The pivot is the point where the blade rotates to open or close. Many knives use a pin (not adjustable) in the pivot. Many others use a screw(adjustable). Pivots loosen over time. It's nice to be able to correct that. Also, with an adjustable pivot, you can select the exact amount of tension that you prefer.


the FRN (fiber reinforced nylon grip scales) versions are very reasonably priced, and have a nice grippy texture
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Fiber reinforced nylon is the handle(grip scales) material on the models I'm referring to. There are lots of options when it comes to scales. I like something rough for a good grip.

...the lock system is strong, and doesn't require thin springs...
I don't have pictures to illustrate this, but the lock on the Delica and Endura uses a nice sized hunk of steel as a spring. The Benchmade Axis Lock, or SOG ARG Lock for example, use much thinner springs. More prone to failure, IMO. Probably not an issue for most people. I own several Axis Lock Knives, and none of them have ever failed, but it's something to consider.

...and there are drones available.
These are drones. They're dull, rounded tip versions of certain knives.

If you're going to carry a knife intending to use it as a defensive weapon, you need to train with your knife. Obviously, you can't use a live blade when working with a training partner. Folders in particular require lots of deployment practice. Just as we don't practice drawing loaded pistols, we shouldn't practice drawing and opening live blades.
Most knife companies don't make drones. Spyderco, Benchmade, and Emerson are the only companies that do AFAIK. You could get a live Delica or Endura and a drone for about the price of one or the other from Benchmade. Less than one or the other from Emerson.

I also prefer Spyderco's RoundHole to thumb studs or discs.
The RoundHole is a hole in the blade that's used to open the knife.
If you visit this link,Cutlery Shoppe - Search - Page 2, and look around a little, you'll see that all Spyderco folders have them.

Some knives use a stud,Benchmade MINI GRIPTILIAN - Black Handle Plain Edge Drop Point Blade or a disc Emerson Knives mounted on, or near the spine of the blade for the same purpose.

I like the hole, but that's really a personal preference issue.

I hope this helps.
 

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Go with Spyderco. Walmart has them on their website and will ship to their stores for free.
 

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There are a ton of Spyderco Vids on youtube that would be pretty educational for Phoebe and might help regarding which would be best.
Click this Link. YouTube - spyderco


Also check out the SOG Flash II Arc Loc.
 

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I have two Kershaw Ken Onion Leeks (assisted opener)...great knives.
Easy one hand open/close (the close part take some bandaids to develop:rofl:)
 
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