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Lanza - Sandy Hook : studied past shootings and planned this well ahead of time

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Wanted notoriety ??? It's nearly impossible to stop a evil person .... who has a well layed out plan , and the means and intelligence to do it.... because you won't know their intent, until they do it.
This story needs to get out there, this was a very disturbed person ...... not someone who just grabbed a gun one day and started shooting people.

Sandy Hook gunman reportedly compiled massive spreadsheet on previous killings | Fox News


Sandy Hook gunman reportedly compiled massive spreadsheet on previous killings
The gunman behind the shooting massacre at Connecticut’s Sandy Hook Elementary School reportedly compiled extensive research about previous mass murders into a spreadsheet containing roughly 500 people.

The New York Daily News reports that an obsessive Adam Lanza produced a spreadsheet 7 feet long and 4 feet wide in tiny 9-point font that required a special printer on past mass killings and attempted murders.

“We were told [Lanza] had around 500 people on this sheet,” a law enforcement veteran told the newspaper. “Names and the number of people killed and the weapons that were used, even the precise make and model of the weapons. It had to have taken years. It sounded like a doctoral thesis, that was the quality of the research.”



A law enforcement veteran who attended the International Association of Police Chiefs and Colonels mid-year meeting in New Orleans last week — a conference where state police colonels share information — told columnist Mike Lupica that gunmen like Lanza should be referred to as “glory killers” instead of mass murderers.

“They don’t believe this was just a spreadsheet. They believe it was a score sheet,” the unidentified career cop told Lupica. “This was the work of a video gamer, and that it was his intent to put his own name at the very top of that list. They believe that he picked an elementary school because he felt it was a point of least resistance, where he could rack up the greatest number of kills. That’s what (the Connecticut police) believe.”
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Link's not good! :confused:
The scope of his mental illness and obsession with the video game fantasy world cannot be overstated. Another thing that isn't mentioned here but came out recently was that police found a number of partially used magazines at the scene. They suspect that this is reflective of his experiences with shooting in video games where typically you reload and your unused rounds go back into the overall pool of ammo you have to use. Obviously, this isn't how real guns work.

On a side note, in my opinion his mother was no victim at all. That one could live with someone who was so obviously disturbed, in many ways facilitate their illness such as by taking him out of school, and provide him access to a large number of firearms nullifies any sympathy I have for her.
Nearly all of them studied previous mass shootings and planned long and hard.
I used this article to drive the point home that banning inanimate objects will not deter or stop a criminal determined to commit mass murder. I also emphasized people who cannot function or show empathy towards others in society, without medication or supervision (like the Newtown shooter, plus others) should be put in an asylum....that we need to re-look mental health and commitment.
Was this article about Newtown or video games?
One thing that just came to mind about this that strikes me as odd: since he was so deeply obsessed with other shootings and with video games and had that "gamers' education" of weapons, why didn't he use the Saiga? If you look at the weapons that he brought to the school (AR, Sig 226, Glock 20SF, Saiga with drum magazine), considering that it all involved very close quarters shooting, it strikes me as really strange that the Saiga was the only weapon not used. I can't really think of a more deadly weapon for close quarters than a magazine fed semi auto 12ga.
I’m always somewhat suspicious of articles that cite anonymous sources such as “the unidentified career cop”

About the author:

Mike Lupica's Daily News columns often take an unabashed liberal perspective, but the Sports Reporters panelist has generally kept his political takes off of ESPN's airwaves—by apparent directive of the WWL itself

Mike Lupica's Pro-Gun-Control Essay On Today's Sports Reporters Makes Bob Costas Sound Like A Right-Winger
Was this article about Newtown or video games?
About linking the results of one with the influences of the other, it would seem.

Unless he laid out his own motivations describing his game-related purpose and planning, it's likely all supposition. Folks are many things. I'm an avid reader of books, but the "murder mystery" nature of some of them hardly means it's my motivation or influences my planning for anything, other than, perhaps, the mystery of what SPF lotion to bring before the trip to the beach.

Moral of the story: life will find a way, even if "the way" is through death, even if obtaining add-on weaponry can only be found by murdering one's own family, even if sidestepping statutes (even a whole bushel of them) is needed to fly under the radar. It is what it is, and no amount of wishing things away will alter that fact.
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“They don’t believe this was just a spreadsheet. They believe it was a score sheet,” the unidentified career cop told Lupica. “This was the work of a video gamer, and that it was his intent to put his own name at the very top of that list. They believe that he picked an elementary school because he felt it was a point of least resistance, where he could rack up the greatest number of kills. That’s what (the Connecticut police) believe.”

I wonder if anyone in BO's or Fineswine's camp has read that yet.
"They believe that he picked an elementary school because he felt it was a point of least resistance, where he could rack up the greatest number of kills. That’s what (the Connecticut police) believe."
Anyone seeking to kill a mass of people would generally consider the practical ability to increase the "mass" of it all. They're not heading into Fort Knox to waste all the guards, there. Instead they're tending to hit subway platforms at rush hour, busy malls, schools and the like. No surprises as to why, gaming fetish notwithstanding in this case. If you want to get chickens, it's not a stretch to consider the coop.
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“They don’t believe this was just a spreadsheet. They believe it was a score sheet,” the unidentified career cop told Lupica. “This was the work of a video gamer, and that it was his intent to put his own name at the very top of that list. They believe that he picked an elementary school because he felt it was a point of least resistance, where he could rack up the greatest number of kills. That’s what (the Connecticut police) believe.”

I wonder if anyone in BO's or Fineswine's camp has read that yet.
They are probably aware of it. But I'm sure they don't care. After all you lose liberal points if you let facts stand in your way.
They are probably aware of it. But I'm sure they don't care. After all you lose liberal points if you let facts stand in your way.
There was a time, a short 3 months ago, when I would have disputed that fact. The response to Newtown changed that.
On a side note, in my opinion his mother was no victim at all. That one could live with someone who was so obviously disturbed, in many ways facilitate their illness such as by taking him out of school, and provide him access to a large number of firearms nullifies any sympathy I have for her.
Give mom a break. She had been trying for over a year to get him committed. Conn. has the toughest laws in the country to try to get some committed. She constantly told friends that she was concerned he would do something and wanted to get him committed where he could get help and be in a controlled environment. They believe why he may have done what he did, when he did, was that she had finally just gotten the court to commit him, and they think she may have told him.
The clear takeaway here is how 'soft' gun-free zones attract these glory killers.
The elementary school was chosen because this wretched coward knew that he wouldn't face any armed resistance.
And in this case, this twisted nut's selection was also linked with the bizarre game rule where if someone kills you...they get all your 'kill points.'
Hardening the target (whether by LE or CC) is the only rational response to such evil.
And it shows just how far off the mark the gun-control crowd is.
There's over 98,000 public schools in the US, and almost 29,000 private ones. No telling how many are gun-free zones, it's a good bet almost all of them. Putting guns into schools, aside from LEO's, isn't going to happen soon. Most people won't go for it.
The scope of his mental illness and obsession with the video game fantasy world cannot be overstated. Another thing that isn't mentioned here but came out recently was that police found a number of partially used magazines at the scene. They suspect that this is reflective of his experiences with shooting in video games where typically you reload and your unused rounds go back into the overall pool of ammo you have to use. Obviously, this isn't how real guns work.

On a side note, in my opinion his mother was no victim at all. That one could live with someone who was so obviously disturbed, in many ways facilitate their illness such as by taking him out of school, and provide him access to a large number of firearms nullifies any sympathy I have for her.
Bolded - Uh...not necessarily. He may very well have been executing tac reloads and just dropped the used ones instead of stowing them. I did that myself a number of times in courses. If I had any resistance at all re-stowing the partially spent mags during a tac reload I just dropped them instead and moved forward to reengage anyway. Not that I'm giving him that much credit, but it is a possibility.
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