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These laws have been in effect for many years. I remember our church sponsoring a family coming in the early 1960s as refugees. The obligation of financial support was very real, lodging, food, medical care, everything.

This is nothing new in US immigration laws or policies. The only thing that is new is enforcement of the obligation that has been ignored for decades.
 
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There needs to be a severe and harsh change in accountability, for this.

If the People determined through the statutes that no newbie immigrant shall be tolerated on "the public dole" and their sponsors are on the hook, then they should darned well BE on that hook. For every nickel. Every one ... medical, travel, court problems/fees, assistance, education, all of it.

And if the statutes/codes require such, then it should be enforced.

IMO it should also be retroactive against organizations and states where this has been deliberately ignored and "thumbed", but that'll never happen. The howls of "fascism" and subsequent self-righteous rioting would crush all government for a decade, if gov't actually took that stance. (As a little 'thought experiment' it might be worthwhile to attempt to estimate just how large a pile of cash that might be, if every nickel were to be tallied over the past ~40yrs where everyone piled on the band wagon to get 'theirs'.)

I'd like to hear what the howls of displeasure are going to be, in the courts, when the inevitable lawsuits come up to challenge the gov't actually enforcing the law. What an affront to everything we are and America stands for, right?, enforcement of the law the People commanded shall be followed. (And I hope every such lawsuit gets buried instantaneously by the courts, or the Court, if they get so far. Else plaintiffs will have to square with the fact they are claiming unlawful/unconstitutional laws are on the books and being dared to get enforced.)
 
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I’ve seen abuses with the H-1B visa program. Tech companies fly dozens of workers over to work big on system installations and put them up in cheap hotel rooms, sometimes 6 to a room. They work them like slaves and when their visa expires they fly them back and bring over a new bunch.

They can’t complain, because they can get fired for any reason and the companies wouldn’t fly them home. Then they would be immediately stranded here as illegals, because employment with the sponsoring company is a condition of the visa.
 
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We are running the government by Executive Orders. All these common sense laws are only good until We The People are stupid enough to elect progressives again.
Congress needs to do their job and make them permanent.
 
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^ This.

For the most part, the whiney legislators are simply doing the TDS Trump bitchery dance, and not their actual jobs of crafting decent legislation that gets the job done. Trump is attempting to "get the job done" that Congress has formerly specified, attempting to execute the laws of this land, and at the moment a great percentage of the legislators are simply working to tear down such attempts at LE.

Conduct unbecoming, dereliction of duty, failure to accomplish the sworn oath to the People, failure to accomplish that which they were hired to do.

Now, I don't agree with some of the methods of application that we've seen, on a range of laws, but I do agree with the attempts to enforce them and to correct the ship before it grounds on the rocks ahead. The whiners (in the legislatures, govs, mayors, city councils) don't seem to get the point of the exercise, instead preferring TDS to actual governance, all day every day.

It gets tiresome, attempting to save them from themselves, and us from them.

The awful thing about so many Exec Orders is: the next non-conservative wonk who gets elected could easily zap and reverse many or most of these things, to halt the changes being made.

I dearly hope most of the "major" issues reach SCOTUS and that SCOTUS flatly decides on the constitutionality and lawful nature of what's being done and the manner of execution. At which point, perhaps much of the stuff can remain in place as Congress specified (ports authorities, migration, documentation, qualifications for putting people 'on the dole', limitations on who's lawfully able to be hired, etc).