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I have been analizing that Bob - in fact saw it last night and was still running it thru.

It does seem very cut and dried now - all points to trooper doing what he had to do - and yet the family wants to sue - sheesh! It is about time suits were not permitted for legitimate shoots - and this certainly right now seems to be incontravertible.

I did have a news site link yesterday but cannot find yet - will post if I do.

Here it is - one anyways -

http://www.nbc4i.com/news/7294281/detail.html
 

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seems a law stating all proven criminally guilty , should not have the right to sue civilly. this should be to protect civilians and LEO alike.
 

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They shouldn't be able to sue, he had a gun(and fired it) and resisted the officer and fought with him, game over.
 

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The BG's father is absolutely right: He didn't have to die. It was a bad move to get into a struggle with a police officer. It was an even worse move to pull a gun on the officer. If he hadn't have had that lapse in judgement, the BG would still be alive today.
 

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PatrioticRick said:
They shouldn't be able to sue, he had a gun(and fired it) and resisted the officer and fought with him, game over.
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The kid was drunk, stupid, resisted, and tried to take the officer's life. I agree it shouldn't take but a single look at the video to call it a justified shooting. I'm sure it's hard for his parents to accept the fact of what happened even when they saw the video - we always believe our kids would never do a serious wrong. Maybe they'll come to their senses before it all goes to court.
 

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This can make it challenging to carry in Ohio as it only makes our troopers very nervous upon approach. We must immediatley inform LE if pulled over. As you can see this guy had bad intenions.
 

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It appears that he adminstered first aid after the shooting, win or lose the LEO has to live with that night for therest of his life, perhaps he should counter sue?
 

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I'm sure the man spoke from grief over his son's death, but there's something just incredibly stupid in his saying that he didn't care what the video showed, as if it had nothing to do with what happened.

No, his son didn't "have to die." He brought it on himself.

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Just because the family 'wants' to sue, doesn't mean the court will allow them to. They can say whatever the heck they want to to the media. It'll be up to the judge whether or not they'll even allow the trial to take place. Civilly or not, if it's not a good case, the court should put an iksnay on it.

No his son didn't have to die. No his son didn't have to illegally have a gun on his person. No his son didn't have to draw it on a cop. No he didn't have to fail as a father and not teach his son the difference between right and wrong. To hell with him.
 

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Echoing many of the above posts, I can see the father saying now........"He shot him in the head. He never gave him a chance...."

As expressed above, he had a lot of chances. He didn't have to disobey the officer, he didn't have to struggle with him, he didn't have to try and shoot the officer. He had a lot of chances, he just used them all up.
 

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On this parent deal - read this quote from another incident. It shows yet again how much parents can insist on tunnel vision -
Last year a woman called the police on her drugged up knife wielding son and when the police caught up with him he went on the attack. They tried to tazer him and after that failed he was able to stab a female officer in the shoulder and neck. Both officers shot him and he died on the scene. The mothers comment on the news was, "I don't pay my taxes so the police can kill my boy".
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100% justified. If this ever reaches the courtroom it will be a complete travesty. I love my son, but if he EVER pulled something like that, then he deserves everything he gets.
 

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I agree that it appears, in all respects, to be justified on the part of the officer; indeed, it appears (especially considering that we saw only a portion of the cruiser's videotape of the incident) that the officer showed remarkable restraint for a long period of time. During that time, all the young man had to do was stop resisting, and he would almost certainly be alive today.

The attitude expressed by the father of the young man is an extreme example of what many teachers see in schools across this country..."My child can do no wrong."

Tragic for all involved, but I think the officer was completely justified.
 

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That's one of the situations that worries me the most. Grappling, and unable to release the suspect to hit your emergency button, or grab your knife, or draw your gun, because releasing a hand will give him the opportunity to kill you. So you hold on, wait, and try to live a few more seconds.

That Trooper showed a lot of discipline by staying clinched with that guy. A lot of people would've tried to jump up and make space, which might have given him a nice clear shot.

It doesn't matter what the father says, this guy is 100% in the clear. He might have a rough time if he were a CHP Trooper in San Francisco, but this happened in Ohio. He'll be fine.
 

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would it be different if the cops parents were sueing to bad guy, because it could have gone that way. The cop did what he had to do.
 
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