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Lessons to be learned here.
Absolutely. When it's come to shooting, shoot... don't talk.*Hey, Richard. I really like the job the narrator did in this video. Well thought-out, and well presented.
This is about as textbook as a real-life incident can be, all captured on video. The armed citizen's mistakes should provide many takeaways. Here are a few of mine:
He immediately went tunnel-vision on the assailant he identified as a threat and closed on him, forgetting that distance was his friend;
He failed to check his world. The female was gun-in-hand during the entire lead-in to the shooting;
He totally disregarded cover/concealment;
He attempted to apprehend the threat instead of stopping the threat. This one is arguable, for sure, but if I, as a private citizen feel compelled to draw on an armed assailant/active shooter, I feel compelled to shoot him without verbal warning. If he is ready and willing to die anyway, chances are good that he will raise his gun and fire on me rather than submit to my commands.
Great topic. Thanks
I can see a few cases where going after a shooter might be the prudent thing to do, but frankly very few. In nearly all cases, try to get the hell out of Dodge and let the police do what we pay them to do.One more time. I purchased my firearms to protect my family, myself and my ability to provide for my family. Period. Sorry folks.
I would have hauled butt. He was right by the door, the danger to him had passed and he had ample opportunity to bolt.
The only reason I would've gone in the store is if my wife was in there.One more time. I purchased my firearms to protect my family, myself and my ability to provide for my family. Period. Sorry folks.
I would have hauled butt. He was right by the door, the danger to him had passed and he had ample opportunity to bolt.
Yours is probably the most widely-held opinion in dealing with such situations.One more time. I purchased my firearms to protect my family, myself and my ability to provide for my family. Period. Sorry folks.
I would have hauled butt. He was right by the door, the danger to him had passed and he had ample opportunity to bolt.
Agreed. Only way I'd engage the guy is if either family is in harm's way, or it was the only chance I had to survive.One more time. I purchased my firearms to protect my family, myself and my ability to provide for my family. Period. Sorry folks.
I would have hauled butt. He was right by the door, the danger to him had passed and he had ample opportunity to bolt.
One hopes.Yours is probably the most widely-held opinion in dealing with such situations.
Stopping an active shooter isn't pointless. I'm fairly certain the intent of the OP was to demonstrate how it isn't done.It's defensive carry, not offensive carry. That guy went on the offense, and paid the ultimate price for it, unfortunately.
In a mass shooting, the hero helps people get to safety. The hero guards a door for people who are unable to escape. The hero defends. Going on the offense to hunt down the bad guys gets you killed either by the bad guy, or a cop. Because face it, when the cops show up all they know is there's a guy with a gun inside. And guess what? You're a guy with a gun. And this could've gone another way entirely. Maybe the woman accomplice wasn't there, and the good guy shot the bad guy. Only as the good guy was shooting the bad guy, a cop looking for a guy with a gun walks into the aisle, sees the shooting, and shoots the good guy. There are all kinds of other ways the good guy can negatively interfere too. It's just adding one more element into a chaotic environment. It's pointless.
In most cases it is. You exacerbate the situation, possibly put others in danger, interfere with police, and likely end up getting yourself killed either by a shooter or the police. Or, another guy carrying going on the hunt.Stopping an active shooter isn't pointless. I'm fairly certain the intent of the OP was to demonstrate how it isn't done.
Active shooters inflict an average of eight casualties per minute for every minute they go unchallenged. Since police response time almost always involves at least a few minutes, the casualty count will grow if nobody acts. All decisions incur risks, to be sure. The intent of the OP was to learn from the video and minimize those risks if one does to act against the shooter(s).In most cases it is. You exacerbate the situation, possibly put others in danger, interfere with police, and likely end up getting yourself killed either by a shooter or the police. Or, another guy carrying going on the hunt.
So between spending your time and energy making yourself and other safe, and taking an action that likely will result in your death, it is pointless to go on the offensive.