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Like the title says, I am currently in the research phase of looking for an optic to go on my mock dissipator build, and while I generally like Aim points, I want something with some magnification, and don't like the added bulk and expense of a dedicated 3x magnifier.

Currently the main contender is the Burris MTAC. It is about middle of the road as far as price, I like the rreticle, and Burris generally makes solid scopes.

I was looking at the Millet DMS heavily, but don't. Think I like the reticle as much, especially when it isn't illuminated.

Nikon's M-223 doesn't have an illuminated reticle, which is one of my requirements. Neither does the Leupold VX-2.

I think Vortex has a similar scope that meets my needs, I just haven't really looked into it yet. And I am sure that there are many others out there as well, that I just haven't found yet.

I personally think this style scope has a high level of potential for use from close range out to 600 or so yards.
 

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One of our ROs has the Millet DMS on a dedicated .22 AR. I played with it a bit and was pretty impressed, but that's a budget buster for now. He did mention that the reticle (red ring) illumination is washed out in strong sunlight, which may be a consideration for you.
 

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i have the burris mtac 1-4x on my ar, the glass is really clear, and i really like the redical, a plus that it is lighted since i use the gun to hunt coyotes at night... ii would reccomend it, The only thing i wish i would have done differently was buy a higher power scope.. since i was using it for hunting
 

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One of our ROs has the Millet DMS on a dedicated .22 AR. I played with it a bit and was pretty impressed, but that's a budget buster for now. He did mention that the reticle (red ring) illumination is washed out in strong sunlight, which may be a consideration for you.
That definitely is a consideration, and one of the main reasons I don't think I want a DMS, most of the others have much more usable reticles for shooting in sunlight. I want a sort do "do all" optic. The illuminated reticle would be useful for low light or HD usage, but for shooting during the day outdoors it probably wouldn't be used, which means the reticle has to be useful as a stand alone option as well.
 

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i have the burris mtac 1-4x on my ar, the glass is really clear, and i really like the redical, a plus that it is lighted since i use the gun to hunt coyotes at night... ii would reccomend it, The only thing i wish i would have done differently was buy a higher power scope.. since i was using it for hunting
Our ACOGs in country were 4x, and I think for defensive based use, that is sufficient out to at least 600 yards for target identification and engagement. Which is also about the end of the range I would consider the 5.56 effective based on my personal experiences.

But I think for hunting, especially coyotes in open areas, it probably is a bit weak
 

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I was looking into this also as an alternative to Aimpoint and found a recommendation for the Leupold Mark AR Mod1 - It is listed on Cabela's web site for a little less than an Aimpoint Pro. The magnification is 1.5-4X20.
 

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I have a Leupold VX-R 1.25-4 and I really, really like it. Of course, my main focus is low light hog hunting, and not "tactical" in nature.
 

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I found that the Millett DMS was a very solid performer as well. Upgraded to the VXR because the only thing I didn't like was the size and weight.
 

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I think I'm going to end up with the Leupold mk6 1-6 with the cmr reticle within the year. Very light weight and quality is superb. I just wish the Horus h27 reticle was available for it like their 1-8.
 

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I think I'm going to end up with the Leupold mk6 1-6 with the cmr reticle within the year. Very light weight and quality is superb. I just wish the Horus h27 reticle was available for it like their 1-8.
Well, I could do two more builds with aim points for the price of that optic. I am sure it is quite nice, and I appreciate nice optics, but that wouldn't be justifiable to me currently. Trying to keep the scope and mount under $600

Looking on Leupold's sight the Mark AR Mod 1 does have an illuminated reticle optio, so I will have to look into that.

I need to start taking note of eye relief for all of them too, and I will want to mount it at the front of the upper probably, so I will need a few inches of eye relief.
 

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Well, I could do two more builds with aim points for the price of that optic. I am sure it is quite nice, and I appreciate nice optics, but that wouldn't be justifiable to me currently. Trying to keep the scope and mount under $600

Looking on Leupold's sight the Mark AR Mod 1 does have an illuminated reticle optio, so I will have to look into that.

I need to start taking note of eye relief for all of them too, and I will want to mount it at the front of the upper probably, so I will need a few inches of eye relief.
Yeah, that's why I hope to have it in a year or so. SWFA and Vortex are where I'd be looking for that price range. I may buy an SWFA while waiting to buy the Leupold. Someday.
 

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Yeah, that's why I hope to have it in a year or so. SWFA and Vortex are where I'd be looking for that price range. I may buy an SWFA while waiting to buy the Leupold. Someday.
I think the Vortex PST looks rather promising, and I have heard good things about the brand in general. I'd have to decide on a reticle to use.
 

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This would be my suggestion.
Worthwhile Vid tho (kinda long) ~ you may want to FF a bit. Good view of the reticule & illumination.
You can find a better $$$ than what he paid if you shop around on line. :yup:
 
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