This post is to promote a debate. I have combat performance tuned a snub nosed 460 S&W magnum shown below. I have also posted Jerry Miculek showing the results results of ballistic gelatin using the 200 grain hornady round.
Velocity was about 2300 FPS with the 8 3/8" BBL? That is very impressive as wast the damage and reaction of the Gel block. My first concern, shortening the barrel will, especially with that cartrige significantly lower the velocity to what? If I had to guess I would say 1500 fps or maybe less.
The debate is why not this for concealed carry.
How much does that weigh? ( 72.2 oz with the 8 3/8" BBL) Maybe 2 times what a S&W model 69 does? (Almost) It is as physically large as a Desert Eagle and the recoil impulse alone is going to beyond the ability of the vast majority of shooters to cope with.
Please incorporate into the debate that the 460 snubnose I have combat performance tuned as an experiment has a 2.5 inch barrel (3 inch measured hat the forcing cone). I will also state that this combination with this revolver can be rapid fired with high accuracy and speed.
What is your definition of speed? And by whom? Jerry?
Given the wound expansion channel in Jerry's ballistic gelatin (note the temporary and permanent channel in the gelatin), please comment and critique.
That was with a LONG barrel, not the snubby, there will be a significant difference.
Again we are only reviewing this for SD using the 200 grain ballistic tip hornady.
If you can maintain enough velocity for the bullet to perform, is that bullet designed for the 460, 454 or 45 colt?
Let's have some fun here and open our minds a bit and please, all comments welcome. Please use some imagination here on feasibility and limitations.
I have 4 - 44 magnums that I shoot on a regular basis, have killed quite a few deer with 44's. I have one, S&W Model 69 that I carry semi frequently. I feel it is the perfect carry revolver for me @ 37.4 OZ. Recoil is fairly mid for a 44 magnum. The 460 weighs almost exactly twice what an L frame does, I am going to submit that it is to heavy and bulky to use as a CCW pistol by 99% of the population. For Andre the Giant or my Delta force buddy who is 6'8" and 350 lbs it may be the perfect choice. I have people tell me all the time that even the 44 magnum is too much gun. I agree with that assessment to a point, that most shooters can not control even the 44 magnum.
Consider that I have combat performance tuned this snub for speed as an experiment. I post this to open up the forum to new ideas that are not necessarily the norm and to start debate. Also note that speed loader or moon clips are available for this revolver (can not do both, one or the other).
Post some video of you shooting and performing a combat reload for discussion. Some things do not become apparent until you put them into action. For example, I discovered that 44 magnum, moon clips, rubber grips and -30 are not a good mixture. As a master shooter that should be a simple thing. Why cant you use clips and speedloaders? I can with my 69 Smith after TKC customs cut it for clips. If this is a one or the other proposition I say speedloaders without reservation because clips are a PITA with the 44 magnum, the longer 460 would only aggravate the problem and then it depends on whether or not the brass you have like the clips.
If there is enough interest here I will call Jerry Miculek (I have his personal cell phone number) and see if he will do a video on shooting this in a video DA with combat draw cycle. "Get Some!!"
Anyone who calls Clark Custom Guns can get his number. You should really stop name dropping, it does not impress people here. We all know what Jerry can do, what he can do with a pistol is irrelevant to use mortals. What can you do?
