This post is to promote a debate. I have combat performance tuned a snub nosed 460 S&W magnum shown below. I have also posted Jerry Miculek showing the results results of ballistic gelatin using the 200 grain hornady round. The debate is why not this for concealed carry. Please review the results of Jerry's video on the 200 grain hornady. Please incorporate into the debate that the 460 snubnose I have combat performance tuned as an experiment has a 2.5 inch barrel (3 inch measured hat the forcing cone). I will also state that this combination with this revolver can be rapid fired with high accuracy and speed. Given the wound expansion channel in Jerry's ballistic gelatin (note the temporary and permanent channel in the gelatin), please comment and critique. Again we are only reviewing this for SD using the 200 grain ballistic tip hornady. Please review the first part of Jerry's video before commenting and the shortened barrel of the the snub 460 below. Let's have some fun here and open our minds a bit and please, all comments welcome. Please use some imagination here on feasibility and limitations. Note that Jerry's video shows the Hornady 200 ballistic tip does not fully penetrate the ballistic gelatin in the video (this discussion does not relate to the over penetration of the cast round he uses later in the video). Consider that I have combat performance tuned this snub for speed as an experiment. I post this to open up the forum to new ideas that are not necessarily the norm and to start debate. Also note that speed loader or moon clips are available for this revolver (can not do both, one or the other). If there is enough interest here I will call Jerry Miculek (I have his personal cell phone number) and see if he will do a video on shooting this in a video DA with combat draw cycle. "Get Some!!"